surname Dlddyhm, originate from.

[hiraeth]

Hi Roe

I wonder if you have considered this family:

birth Cecil Richard F GLYN registered Hamstead Dec Q 1875 (1a/598) 

In 1901  Hampstead RG13/Piece1224/Folio132/Page20
Richard H Glyn, age 59, Commision Merchant, Employer, b Canada
Mary A Glyn, age 58, b Essex
Hugh D Glyn, age 29, Unm, solicitor, b London, Hampstead
Cecil R F Glyn, age 25, Unm, Commission Merchant, Employer, b London, Hampstead
Edith G Glyn, age 24, Unm, b Cricklewood, London
Guy G Glyn, age 22, Um, Civil engineer, Cricklewood, London
Plus one servant & a cook

death Cecil Richard F GLYN, age 30, Hendon Jun Q 1906 (3a/133)

Edith Grace Glyn married a Charles Edward Briggs (a clergyman !) at St Andrew’s Well Street, St Marylebone, Westminster on June 9, 1903.  According to the marriage register (viewable on An***try) there were no marriages performed between June 20, 1903 and July 16, 1903

Cecil & Edith’s father, Richard Henry GLYN was also a commission agent, born in Quebec.  He died in 1913 and his probate indicates an estate of approximately pounds 65000.00 – a lot of money now and even more in 1913   I don’t have access but he is mentioned on New York Passenger Lists. 

Heather

[Roecoyle]

Hi Heather, many thanks for your info and interest, no i had not seen this family
but it is certainly interesting and i will have a look into it.
                          Roe.

[hiraeth]

Hi Roe

There is a tree on Ancestry for the Glynn family.  It might be worth contacting the tree owner to see if they have more information.  Cecil Glynn died May 14, 1906 per the application for administration by his father so possibly his death was unexpected.   He may have an obit in the Times? 

Keep us posted!
Heather

[pinot]

Roe,

If you look at Welsh names, there is a lot with the double d's and strings of letters with one or no vowels! I was reading on a Welsh site last night and it said that some double d's are really a "th" sound" Very interesting language!

Deborah

            Hi Deborah,
                     Glad you find our language interesting; the way it is written certainly makes it different from present-day English. The double-d sound is simply the sound of 'th' in English mother, bother, this, the, etc. Older English used to write 'th' in its different apparitions as two separate letters, thorn and etha. Also 'w' and 'y' are treated as vowels in Welsh, leading to the possibility of a perfectly normal Welsh word such as 'bwydydd' (foods) appearing to have no vowels at all.
            The surname in your post seems to have no relation to any Welsh name I can imagine, with the slight exception of Morganllan's 'Dyddgen'. I think the Baltimore Sun was being a little creative in its decipherment of someone's scrawl.
                     Anyway, best of luck in your search,
                                Pinot 

[Roecoyle]

Recieved the birth cert for (as mentioned in previous post) the Kathleen McKay as follows.
24th Feb 1899 at Queen Charlotts Hosp. Maryleborne Rd.
Name  Kathleen (no surname listed on cert for child)
fathers name. ------ none.
mothers name. Elizabeth McKay, housemaid of St George`s
Informant,   E McKay. 132 Alderney St. Pimlico.
???Whats the chances of this being Elisa/Lissa McKay and Mrs Deddyhn
on the 1901 census with her 2yr old daughter.
I still have not  been able to find a child born in Scotland that would fit
and Lissa is not on any Scottish census after 1891, I think this maybe
her. any suggestions welcome. many thanks roe.

[jorose]

I can't find any trace of this child elsewhere, so it seems reasonably likely to be the one you're looking for. It is normal for there to be no surname listed on the certificate; there is no space for it. The surname is assumed to be that of the father if they are married and that of the mother if no father is listed; in cases where both parents are listed but they are not married it is indexed under both names.

I think some Queen Charlotte's Hospital records are at the LMA.

www.historicaldirectories.org shows a Mrs Cornish at 132 Alderney in 1895, and a George Lound Cornish there in 1882; this may have been the family she worked for (I would guess that George had passed away by 1895 and it was his wife there), or someone else may have moved in by then.

It was not uncommon for a woman working in a domestic, live-in position to lose her job or have problems finding a new one if she had a baby in tow and no husband; so there would have been very real pressures for Eliza to represent herself as "Mrs" (perhaps with a husband "away in New York") when looking for work.

The key is probably finding out when/how she got to the US and under what name!

[jorose]

Also in 1920 is that "Eliza" now listed as "Katherine E", b. 1882 Scotland, wife of Charles? (Josephine is with them).

Actually http://www.ellisisland.org has her, I think, coming in as Katherine (trip home?)
1922, Katherine McK. Israel, aged 41 (listed as US citizen, "husband born US").

[ShaunJ]

Following up on Jorose's 1922 sighting, the ship was the Tuscania which left Glasgow on 13 October 1922.

I don't see any Israels on the UK outgoing manifest but there is a Cath McKay aged 41 whose last UK address was "Carloune (?) Elgin"

[ShaunJ]

The address given for Kath McK Israel on the US manifest for the Tuscania (Oct 23 1922) is the same as the 1920 census: 6941 Ridge Boulevard, Brooklyn ( enumerated in 1920 as Isreal)

Husband born NYC 3 April 1866

Kath's US passport number 212825