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Saunders/Burn help
« on: Thursday 24 February 11 23:38 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find any details about John George Saunders and Eliza Burn who were supposedly married in Nelson in 1842. He was born in the UK about 1821 but I have had no luck tracing Eliza. They may have had one child in NZ before moving to Australia by 1848. Would love any help or suggestions about tracing their migration to/from NZ (Eliza may have been born in NZ). Any records/ideas/hints/links would be appreciated!
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Julie (Australia)

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Re: Saunders/Burn help
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 February 11 23:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi jewelie

Just for starters, can see a record of arrival in NZ.

SAUNDERS - John George
Occupation : Shoemaker
Age :  19
Status:   Single
Arrived Nelson (NZ) per "Mary Ann" on 8 February 1842

Note says "paid passage" ?    (May mean he paid his own fare to the colony ? )

Will look some more for you.

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Re: Saunders/Burn help
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 February 11 00:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Julie

Looks like this may be Eliza's arrival (indexed as "BURNS") ?

BURNS - Eliza
Age - 16
Occupation - Dressmaker
Status - single
Arrived at Nelson (NZ) per " Lord Auckland" - 23 February 1842

Related Passengers  :  (Not sure if that means "related to Eliza" .... or "related surnames"  ??)

BURNS

--  Rebecca - 45 years - widowed
--  Daniel - 23
--  Robert - 18
--  Elenore - 10
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Still looking for you.    ;)

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Re: Saunders/Burn help
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 February 11 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Link to Nelson Early Settlers database (source of previous info I gave you).

http://ww1.applications.nelsoncitycouncil.co.nz/early-settlers/



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« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 February 11 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Try this Library link - there may be further info available here ?

http://www.nelsoncitycouncil.co.nz/genealogy/

... on this site you'll also find "The Prow" (another heritage site for Nelson)

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Re: Saunders/Burn help
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 February 11 00:48 GMT (UK) »
Here's the whole family

Surname   Forename   Occupation   "Age on Arrival"        Ship   "Arrival Date"
Burns    Rebecca    dressmaker    45                   Lord Auckland   23/02/1842
Burns    John    joiner            27                   Lord Auckland   23/02/1842
Burns    Daniel    baker & bricklayer    23           Lord Auckland   23/02/1842
Burns    Frances    wife                   23                   Lord Auckland   23/02/1842
Burns    Robert    tin man          18                   Lord Auckland   23/02/1842
Burns    Eliza     dressmaker    16                   Lord Auckland   23/02/1842
Burns    Elenore                     10                   Lord Auckland   23/02/1842

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Re: Saunders/Burn help
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 February 11 00:51 GMT (UK) »
Wow .... how fantastic to get all that help. Thankyou so much! I shall now try to go forward from here and try to get marriage details and info about their move to Australia.
Cheers, Julie

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Re: Saunders/Burn help
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 February 11 00:53 GMT (UK) »
Ah  ... here's a passenger list for the "Lord Auckland" which shows the "BURNS" as a family group.    (I also see a John BURNS and wife Frances, who may be related ?)
Sadly, place (or county) of origin, not given.  :(

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/LordAuckland.htm

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Re: Saunders/Burn help
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 February 11 01:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Julie

I can't actually see a record of the marriage (on the resource I'm looking at) ? 

That doesn't mean of course that there wasn't one, but 1842 is before the date of official registrations for NZ, so it may be that a church record (in Nelson), is all that's available.   (Maybe make an enquiry re: church records, at one of the links I gave previously.)   ;)

~   Lu

PS :   I'm sure there's a webpage somewhere I've seen, with these early Nelson BMD's.   Will try and find.