poplar boys homes

[r m doughty]

Hi I am reserching George William orriss b 1902 at some time during his childhood he was placed in a home i do not know how long he was there but left when he was about 14 he was born and lived in Bromley /Poplar i only know it was a train journey back to Poplar, he did have a mother but she may have been a widow. i am sure she was very poor. just wonder if anyone would know where children were sent to from that area.grateful for any information.
                   
                                                Marie.
                                   

[Valda]

Hi

He may have gone into the poor law system in which case he would be possible to track through the records for that poor law union. Records will be held at the London Metropolitan Archives. Or he could have been placed in any number of charity orphanages either national like Barnardoes, Spurgeons, Fegans, Waifs and Strays or charity homes that only operated in London. It is a long list of possibles if you don't know which one unfortunately.

This is a list of all the charities in the London area in 1917 including children's homes

http://www.victorianlondon.org/charities/charities.htm

The best shot at trying to find which one it may have been is to search for him on the 1911 census

http://www.1911census.co.uk/

You cannot ask for lookups from the 1911 census at present on Rootschat you must search yourself. A free search however seems to show him living in Poplar in a household.


Regards

Valda

[r m doughty]

 
   Hi Valda
                  thank you for your reply i know its a long shot with so little detail, I did a search on the 1911 census last year but could not find him , Yet you seem to have found him living in a Poplar household so that is interesting. I will also try the website you have suggested.
 
           Regards
                          Marie.

[jennifer c]

Try one 'S' for index.
Jennifer

[jennifer c]

Mother - Ellen Catherine Preston - married William Carr 31/7/1881 Bethnal Green

then married as a widow - George William Orriss St.Andrews Poplar 25/11/1901
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Father Thomas Preston - Blacksmith


Jennifer

Moderator comment: 1911 census details removed in accordance with Rootschat policy as they are not available from the free index

[jennifer c]

14/2/1883 all bapt. same day St.Leonards Poplar

Catherine Ellen (this order of names) born Feb 1861
Sophia Eliza 6/8/1883
Thomas James Joseph 29/8/1865
George Henry 29/3/1867
parents Thomas a Blacksmith and Ann Eliza address Bromley.

Jennifer

[r m doughty]

Hi Jenifer
                 Thank you, i took an S off the index and found him on the 1911 census. I am so pleased with the other information you gave me, i know so little about the family. George never knew his father he was told he had died before he was born and his mother is listed as being a widow on the census but the only G W Orriss death record i could find was 1910. so maybe he just deserted them, bit of a puzzle.
   
       kind regards
                             Marie

[Valda]

Hi


The age is correct for George William Orris who was 47 on his marriage in 1901. Deaths are registered where the death takes place.


Deaths Dec 1910   Orriss  George W  56  W. Ham  4a 35


George William was born in Stratford West Ham and had a daughter from his first marriage.


1881 census RG11 103 folio 69
49 Stanley Road Stratford West Ham
Geo.Wm. Orriss 27 Head Married Brushmaker Stratford Essex
Sophia Orriss 24 Wife Married Stratford Essex
Susan Orriss 1 Daughter Stratford Essex

Marriages Sep 1876 
Orriss  George William     W Ham  4a 35   
Wright  Sophia     W. Ham  4a 35

Deaths Mar 1891
ORRIS  Sophia  34  W. Ham  4a 3


A possible marriage for Susan

Marriages Mar 1903 
Orriss  Susan Ellen     W. Ham  4a 272
Edwards  Albert     W. Ham  4a 272   

24th December 1902 St Leonard Bromley
George William Orriss  parents George William and Ellen, 10 Cottage Place, father's occupation brush finisher

25th November 1901 St Andrew, Poplar
George William Orriss 47 Widower Brushmaker 16 James Street John Orriss deceased Chemist
Ellen Catherine Carr 43 Widow 16 James Street Thomas Preston deceased Blacksmith
Ellen made her mark
Witnesses Ann Hounslow her mark and Edwin Fry

1861 census RG9 1054 folio 47
4 Union Street Stratford West Ham
John Oriss 41 Head Married Lab Lithcombe Berkshire
Jane Oriss 37 Wife Married Hundon Suffolk
John Oriss 11 Son West Ham Essex
Philip Oriss 10 Son Stratford Essex
George Oriss 8 Son Stratford Essex
Sarah Oriss 6 Daughter Stratford Essex
James Oriss 4 Son Stratford Essex
Samuel Oriss 2 Son Stratford Essex
Jane Oriss 1 Month Daughter Stratford Essex

1871 census RG10 1623 folio 41
7 Union Street Stratford West Ham
John Orriss 51 Head Married Manufacturing chemist Hundon Suffolk
Jane Orriss 48 Wife Married Letcomb Berkshire
Thos John Orriss 21 Son Tin plate worker Stratford Essex
Phillip Hireson Orriss 20 Son Manufacturing chemist Stratford Essex
Wm Geo Orriss 18 Son Brushmaker Stratford Essex
Sarah Orriss 16 Daughter Stratford Essex
James Hireson Orress 14 Son Brushmaker Stratford Essex
Samuel Joseph Orress 12 Son Stratford Essex
Mary Jane Orress 10 Daughter Stratford Essex
Susan Ellen Orress 7 Daughter Stratford Essex
Priscilla Orress 4 Daughter Stratford Essex
 

A tree that mentions him

http://www.tgoodwin.f2s.com/Genealogy/everything%20in%20my%20records/pafg16.htm

and further detail

http://www.tgoodwin.f2s.com/Genealogy/References/GOODWIN%20v3.4.1%20-%20living%20removed.pdf

The Mr. Bolton mentioned in the latter document is George William's great grandson (mentioned in another source)



Regards

Valda

[jennifer c]

1891 census 22 East Street West Ham
George Oriss 38 widower Brush maker born Stratford
Susan 11

living with Thomas & Sarah Bailey the same family he was living with in 1881 at Stanley Road, she could be his sister?

Valda beat me to the rest (thankfully)
Jennifer