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Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« on: Thursday 24 February 11 03:09 GMT (UK) »
I am seeking information about James Smith/Smyth who married Alice Gainsford around 1810. I think he served in the British Army and could have been posted to India.

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Re: Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 February 11 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi sammy - do you have any idea of places to help ie place of birth /marriage?

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Re: Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 February 11 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Diddy,
Unfortunately no, only that he had one child who was born in Dublin in 1817.
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Re: Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 February 11 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Ah - so possibly we are looking for Irish records then. the moderators might move this to irish board if that is the case.

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Re: Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 February 11 21:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Diddy,
I believe James Smyth/Smith was in the army, possibly in the 41st Regiment of Foot. If this is the case the regiment were stationed in Ireland in 1816 - 1820. Before that the regiment was in the USA, Paris and England and after 1820, in England, Scotland and India. I guess that is why tracing him is so difficult.
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Re: Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 December 11 12:24 GMT (UK) »
I am also seeking info re Smyth and gainsford. Daughter Elizabeth m. burns in India and burns family moved to England.Elizabeth then moved with children to Australia, father William burns not in picture, presumed dead.

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Re: Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 December 11 21:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Loron,
Elizabeth Burns was my great, great grandmother and I have all the information about the family from when they arrived in Australia. I believe William Burns died around 1855 as two of the children were put into a boarding school for the poor in Liverpool. At the time of her marriage her name was Smith (as shown on records) and have traced several James Smiths in Army records but have got no further. Maybe the National Archives in Dublin would have the record of her birth.
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Re: Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 December 11 05:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sammy,
Sounds like you have looked at the military records pretty thoroughly. I did this with the Indian Records for Burns and his marriage. I haven't found confirmation of his death. I am a great grandson of Elizabeth Enderby/Coad nee Burns married John Coad. I agree we need to look at the Irish records if we are to get any further
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Re: Information about James Smith/Smyth and Alice Gainsford
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 December 11 10:38 GMT (UK) »
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Maybe the National Archives in Dublin would have the record of her birth.
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What denomination were this Smith/Gainsford family ?

The National Archives in Dublin has records for some Church of Ireland parishes, but most are held in the RCB Library in Rathfarnham. Historic records for most of the RC parishes are available in the National Library.

Many parish records (both RC and CofI) for the city area area available, free of charge, on www.irishgenealogy.ie  Note - Church of Ireland baptism records from this time dont show mother's maiden name.

Most of the barracks in Co. Dublin would have been located within the city, or quite close-by in the suburbs - e.g. Beggars Bush, Portobello etc

see : Introduction to Irish Records

 
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