McArthur-McGilvray

[Aeife]

Hello, Sharon.....

I had also looked at this couple, thinking maybe that James' father's name may have been Donald Duncan McArthur, but guess that's not the answer, as you found their children, which I hadn't seen, and no "James".  On only 1 census (either 1851, or 1861) the birthplace of James is given as Islay, on all others, it's Argyll.  Roger McWee of Islay could not find the family, either.

Any suggestions you may have, will be gratefully followed.  I managed to find a cousin in Scotland, descendant of Annabella's sister, who informed me where James & Annabella are buried in the necropolis, Glasgow, and he said there may be others in the lair, as well. Don't know if there are records there that might give the birthplaces of the deceased.  He also told me that he went to the Mitchell library and had a look at the various censuses, but no distinct birthplace.

Thank you for your reply......

         

[Aeife]

Hello all.....

I have recently moved to another state, and just now getting back to the research on James McArthur.

Wondering if the "Avan" on the census as his birthplace could possibly refer to either Avinlussa or Avinvogie, both on Islay, altho I don't think these names are much in use today. I DO know that McArthurs were in both places, still can find no reference to James or his parents.  Have looked at tenant lists, and there were Duncan McArthurs at Cruach, Lower Leorin, Port Ellin (spelling on list), and Tormisdale. 

Any thoughts from anyone on what I might look for from here?  And I want to thank all who have replied thus far.

Of course, I realise that James & his parents may not have been from Islay originally, but blast me if I can find anything about anything!

[Morag1610]

Hi

I've just registered on this site and came across your post.

I'm also researching McArthur/McGilvray.

My g grandfather was Donald McArthur, born Oa, Islay, Argyllshire.  He married Margaret McGilvray in Glasgow on 1st June 1894.

Maggie, as she was known, was the daughter of Charles and Jean McGilvray (nee Gillies) They were married in Portnahaven, Islay, Argyllshire on 11th December 1856.

I notice in your post that you mention the McArthur family moving from Islay to Gorbals district of Glasgow. 
My father (Donald McArthur) and all of his siblings were born in the Gorbals between 1920 and 1938.

I wonder if there may be some common ground here?

It would be good to compare notes.

Morag Richardson (nee McArthur)

[Aeife]

Hello.....

I'm sorry to be late in responding to your post, but I haven't checked this site lately.

I imagine you will have seen the excellent Rootsweb compilation of the MacGillivrays of Islay, by Russ MAcGillivray, so my McGilvrays are covered pretty well....it's the McArthur lineage I'm having the problems with. Have tried Scotlands People to no avail, so am still in the dark there. Can not find parents of James McArthur, either...births, marriages, etc.

Would love to collaborate with you on any information, but have to say that I'm, by this point, not too optimistic!

Thank you for your reply.

Diana

[Iain...]

Aeife..., Hi !

I don’t have the time to read all the past messages, but I have found this. (done in a hurry so I stand to be corrected by the others)

Annabella McGilvray McArthur. Abt1807, 1871 census at Govan and died 1878 Hutchesontown, Glasgow.
Children Mary 1840 – 1891... Marrion 1848 John 1839 Ann 1838 Archibald 1843 Minas 1845.
Her parents Archibald McGilvray 1776 – 4th May 1859 Margaret McInnes Abt 1772-
Paternal Grandparents Alexander McGilvray and Marion McTaggart.

James McArthur Dec. 1805 – 1st June 1866
His parents Duncan McArthur 1800 - and Mary Currie.
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Mary McArthur 1840 – 26th April 1891 at Old Machar, Aberdeenshire.  Marriage 13th of November 1863 at Blythswood  to James Stewart 1837- 1899.
She has one child Mary Stewart 1885 – 30th November 1954..., this Mary has Ronald/Stewart/ Williamina Elsie/Eric/Ronald as children with Samuel George Munro. 1886-1954.

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Williamina Elsie Munro born Aberdeen 9 June 1904 - died 27 July1990 in Lexington, Kentucky, USA.  Left Glasgow 27 Aug 1915 (RMS Cameronia) and arrived in the US new York 7 Sep 1915.   
Her husband... Kendal Reid Guinn, 16 June 1913 Clinton Country died 1953 new Orleans.
Two children... private:

James:  From the 1851 census..., it’s changed a little since ! 
20, Salisbury Place, Gorbals, Glasgow. (occupation... iron worker)

http://maps.google.fr/maps?q=20+Salisbury+Place,+Gorbals,+Glasgow,+United+Kingdom&hl=fr&ll=55.848349,-4.256945&spn=0.006951,0.022724&sll=55.777719,-4.142404&sspn=0.007386,0.006845&hnear=Salisbury+St,+Royaume-Uni&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=55.848442,-4.256901&panoid=IcFUSUdeHnZ9RkSk9n8mgw&cbp=12,177.96,,0,-0.93

[Aeife]

Hello, Iain.....

Hope all has been well with you since last we "talked".
You have found a wealth of information, it seems, and I want you to know that I sprung for Scotlands People, and can find nothing on James McArthur OR Duncan & Mary Currie that I can pin down.

See you found my mother, Williamina Elsie (she hated that name!) Munro. Lately, I've been trying to find more on the Munros, as I was absolutely disgusted with the lack of anything concrete with McArthurs, and figured I'd let them slide for a while, but at any mention of the name, I'm all eyes!

Good to hear from you, and hope your own searches are proving to be fruitful.
Thank you for this latest information.

Aeife

[Iain...]

Hi Aelfi !

I have this on the “Munro” family.

Samuel George Munro: 23rd of October 1886, Aberdeen, Scotland.  Died 16th of October 1954... Lexington, Kentucky, USA.
Wife Mary Stewart..., 1885 – 1954.
Samuel's parents:
Alexander Munro..., Rothiemay, Banff, Aberdeenshire born on the 14th of November 1840 -   
Isabella Adam, parish of Echt, the 10th of June 1846 – died on the 26th June 1914 in Aberdeen.

Alexander’s parents..., no info.

Isabella’s parents:
John Adam, born Monymusk, Aberdeenshire 1804. 
Barbara Lyon, 1811.
Marriage to Barbara the 8th of May, 1841. (as seen on the 41 – 61 census reports) 
Their children...
John, 1833 / Mary, 1835 / Barbra, 1839 / Helen, 1841 / Sophia, 1843 / Isabella, 1846 – 1914 / James, 1848 / George, 1850.

[Aeife]

Hi, Iain....

Looks like you've been busy again, and coincidentally, I got a message from a Munro I had contacted from a 2004 post of his I happened on, and thought was worth a try....turns out, we ARE related....his gg grandfather was brother to mine, and enabled me to go back another generation with the Munros. Says he has more info, and I hope it's back further.

You said you got the info from a U.S. tree, and am wondering if it's mine (Guinn family), as have not seen any others with these particular folks. I have not updated the tree in quite some time, so need to get on it, it seems!

Thank you for your help and interest, as I am finding out more from individual people like yourself & others than I am fumbingly able to, from professional sites.  Wish the McArthurs would fall in line, accordingly!

With much graditude,   Aeife

[MonicaL]

Just adding link to new post if anyone can help further www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,651911.0.html

Monica