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Re: Any Lacemaking Ancestors?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 24 February 11 13:34 GMT (UK) »
Thats quite a claim to fame! :)

Would be if I could prove it  :D.

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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 24 February 11 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Sophie reply #14

I should add that my daughter also refused to wear the family veil, saying it looked "creepy" -  I think she was thinking of shrouds!  Shame really, as my mother, aunt and great aunt look fantastic in the photos.  They each did something different with it.  We're not quite sure how old it is or who was the first bride to wear it.

danuslave #17

You can tell how much I know about it! :-[

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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 24 February 11 21:11 GMT (UK) »

danuslave #17

You can tell how much I know about it! :-[


But you're learning fast   :)

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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 24 February 11 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Some of my ancestors from North Crawley, Buckinghamshire  circa  1850 to 1860  were Lacemakers.
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 24 February 11 21:50 GMT (UK) »
I'm with Lizzie on this one! As a keen embroiderer I was tempted to have a go until I saw the patterns and the process. My goodness - talk about complicated!

As danuslave has said, once you have understood the concept of following the pattern, which is drawn onto a piece of card and pinned onto the pillow, it really isn't that complicated. I was taught bobbin lace making by my grandmother, and once I had understood the basic process didn't find it too difficult, and (for myself) much easier than knitting.
I have much of my grandmother's lace, including one piece, which I remember watching her make with, I think, 32 pairs of bobbins (the bobbins are always worked in pairs)

Lacemaking isn't cheap to take up either, it's not just a matter of a couple of knitting needles or crochet hooks, so I don't know how our poor ancestors did it.

It isn't cheap to take up now, particularly if you want to buy antique bobbins (I am fortunate to have inherited a large collection) but our ancestors would just have used scraps of wood and bone mostly to make their bobbins. Horsehair would have been used to stuff the pillows.


There is a picture of one of my bobbins (with an interesting story behind it!) here - read reply #21, then go down to #23
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,457918.msg3191471.html#msg3191471

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« Reply #23 on: Friday 25 February 11 14:06 GMT (UK) »
I'm with Lizzie on this one! As a keen embroiderer I was tempted to have a go until I saw the patterns and the process. My goodness - talk about complicated! I just couldn't get my head around the concept of how that jumble of bobbins and thread even begins to resemble the complicated patterns that are used. As creative as I am (I will have a go at most things arty/crafty) I just dont think I would have the patience for lace making :-)

P.S Shame on you Gillg :o  :)

Sophie - And not being sensible enough to have a go first, as I worked with the lacemaking teacher (she did it part time at evening class), I went out and bought all the bobbins etc. that she told me I needed.  They got pushed into the back of a cupboard and eventually when we moved, I just threw the whole lot into the bin!!

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« Reply #24 on: Friday 25 February 11 15:41 GMT (UK) »
LizzieW - I can hear the long 'noooooooooooooooo' as everybody reels in horror that you binned your bobbins.

Jennifer - that is truly gruesome.......but fascinating. So someone must have owned that commemorative bobbin - perhaps someone who knew the poor Sarah Marshall or the terrible Mr Bull.
Did you inherit that particular bobbin?

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« Reply #25 on: Friday 25 February 11 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Jennifer - that is truly gruesome.......but fascinating. So someone must have owned that commemorative bobbin - perhaps someone who knew the poor Sarah Marshall or the terrible Mr Bull.
Did you inherit that particular bobbin?

'Hanging' bobbins were made in considerable numbers, so it wasn't necessarily originally owned by someone who knew either the victim or perpetrator - just someone who happened to be at the hanging and bought a 'commemorative'   :o bobbin.

No, I didn't inherit that one - many years ago my father was able to buy a very old lace pillow complete with an unfinished piece of lace on it with all the bobbins still attached - one of them being the William Bull bobbin. I have quite a few others with names on them.
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« Reply #26 on: Friday 25 February 11 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Well I guess its more of a talking piece than a commerative tea towel or something. Goodness - I guess there really was an entertainment factor in public hangings - they did merchandise! its a wonder they didn't do a programme? maybe a supporting act? with icecreams in the interval. Heavens I'm glad I wasn't born in victorian times or before - I'd have flaked out I think! in fact I would have been to busy rooting around in my skirt pockets for my smelling salts I wouldn't have found time to buy a commerative bobbin!