Richard HARVEY and Margaret CANNING - arrival in Australia

[whiteKat]

Thanks Cando for information on the Hospital Registers being Registers only. I suppose one always hopes for more!

I also take on board  that documents don't always relate correct dates but a range for possible arrival dates can be determined I believe from the information given.

On the differences between the four entries for hospital admissions - could not the first two entries be a different Richard Harvey to the second two admissions since the ages are different; the religions are different, and the street residences are different? Or am I trying to read too much into the information?

In regard to the word 'formally' on Richard and Margaret's marriage record - the word was actually mine - my mistake. I have further reviewed the document and what is stated under the heading of 'Residence' for 'Present' - is  'Bendigo Street', and for 'Usual' - is 'Adelaide'. The same applies to both. There is no 'formally' at all.

Thanks
whiteKat

[sparrett]

Hi whiteKat

There are a large number of HARVEY's who died and were buried in the BALLARAT area, including about 4 RICHARD's

I am able to see the last addresses, but not all entries are detailed.  some just say BALLARAT or Hospital,


Many Harvey's lived in Windemere Street and in most cases a street number is not given. The BDM indexes would need further searching to work out the connections. if any, between them.

However, of those sharing the grave with RICHARD and MARGARET
 
MARY HARVEY who died in 1870 aged 4 months lived in ADAIR Street and
ALBERT HARVEY  who died in 1879 aged 8 months lived in WINDEMERE Street.
Both these were the  children of RICHARD and MARGARET.

The other 2 interred  are non-specific in address.

It therefore would seem both addresses applied to RICHARD and MARGARET

The only HARVEY listed in DARLING Street- no street number- (apart from the RICHARD himself-above) is ALBERT VICTOR HARVEY who died in 1893 aged 21 .
His parents were William and Sarah Ann Wells.

I am not sure if this is of much help in sorting out the Hospital record.
Sue

[whiteKat]

Thank you sparrett and cando again,

The whole story seems a little confusing yet I am beginning to find threads that make sense. The Cemetery details are a great help - I wasn’t aware that you could obtain them. Thank you immensely for finding these for me. And having street names identified helps greatly as well.

It would appear then that the four hospital entries could relate to my Richard after all, as his children lived in both Adair and Windemere Street. It seems that he lived in Adair Street at least up to the mid seventies then moved somewhere thereafter to Windemere Street. Darling  Street however poses more questions since a Harvey of different parentage lived there. Windemere Street does intersect with Darling Street so perhaps, as was suggested earlier, there could be a connection or the residence is one and the same.

Eliza Jane also poses questions especially being buried in the same grave. My Great Grandmother was Eliza Ann born of Margaret and Richard in 1855 and moved to Sydney when she married my Great Grandfather George Albert Beyer. She died in Sydney in 1935. I have found no other Eliza being born to Margaret and Richard yet there is a MARY JANE Harvey born to them in 1876 (Source the Australian Birth Index). She would have been 45 years in 1921 at the time of death of the ELIZA JANE Harvey interred in the same grave. Could there be confusion with the name and the marriage status?  Any ideas where I could search further?

Thank you
whiteKat

[sparrett]

This is the death registration for ELIZA



HARVEY Eliza Jane
Father Sior Willie
Mother Elizth  GAVIN
Death Place: BALLT
Age 45
Year 1921
Reg  4208


Sue

[sparrett]

Her marriage-----

HARVEY Jas
To WILLEY Eliza Jane
Birth Place BALLARAT WEST
Year 1893
Reg.  4809


Was James a son of RICHARD?

Sue

[cando]

Death
HARVEY Eliza Jane
Father Sior Willie  Mother Elizabeth  GAVIN
At Ballarat   45 years  1921  Reg#4208

Birth
WILLEY Eliza Jane
Father Josiah William Willey  Mother Eliza Mccracken Gavin
At Stawell  1876  Ref#11255

Marriage
HARVEY James born Ballarat West
WILLEY Eliza Jane born Stawell
1893  Reg#4809

Only birth I can see on the indexes.

HARVEY Ruby Eliza
Father James  Mother Eliza Jane WILLEY
At Ballarat  1894  Reg#17467

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

Eliza's parents married in 1874 and her father was born in Cornwall.

Cheers
Cassie

[sparrett]

JAMES HARVEY, the son is buried at BALLARAT OLD CEMETERY.
Aged 66
24/1/1938.
Location NBD 68

He shares the location with
 
LESLIE BARNES
aged 49
24/1/1941

Sue

[cando]

Australian Electoral Rolls
1903
HARVEY Eliza  122˝ Talbot Street, Ballarat  HD
HARVEY James  122˝ Talbot Street, Ballarat  Miner

1914
HARVEY Eliza Jane  708 Talbot Street, Ballarat  HD   [Perhaps there was an error in transcribing the house number from the enrolment card.]
HARVEY James  708 Talbot Street, Ballarat  Miner

1920
HARVEY Eliza Jane  706 Talbot Street, Ballarat   Nurse
HARVEY Ruby Eliza  706 Talbot Street, Ballarat  HD

There is a will for Eliza on PROV but it has not been digitised
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54

Cheers 
Cando