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Re: Criminal Register
« Reply #9 on: Monday 21 February 11 22:32 GMT (UK) »
So technically if he was sentanced to 2 years in Newgate at the Middlesex Assizes his name should have appeared in H026/H027 which are now on Ancestry? I looked through the original images under "M" and also "B" in case he was recorded by mistake under his Christian name, but couldn't find him.

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Re: Criminal Register
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 28 April 11 15:48 BST (UK) »
Helping a prisoner of war to escape was legally a misdemeanour and very mildly punished until 1811.  In that year the offence was made a felony punishable by transportation for seven or fourteen years or for life at the court’s discretion.  (52 Geo.  III, c.  156) I would therefore have thought your ancestor would have been the subject of some record showing a conviction for felony and it would be interesting to know why he was not transported.

The persons he helped to escape were (1) Captain A. de Marconay who was captured at Flushing on 15th August 1809 and who was received at Ashby from Forton Prison, Bristol on 11th September 1809, and (2) 2nd Lt Joseph Frequin, captured at Flushing on 15th August 1809 and received at Ashby from Yarmouth on 16th October 1809.  They were parole prisoners, living in lodgings in Ashby, subject to various regulations and restrictions, but otherwise relatively free.

Helping prisoners to escape was a crime done for money, rather than out of any sympathy for French officers, and there were a few criminals who specialised in it.  One of your other correspondents refers you to a website with the text of Francis Abell's Prisoners of War in Great Britain, 1756-1815.  This is quite good on parole life, but Abell is very unreliable when he deals with the prison hulks.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Criminal Register
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 February 22 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Dear all,
Does anyone know more about 2nd Lt Joseph Frequin?
His birthday, his location before he go into the prison, .......?
Currently I'm working on the family history of my great grandfather: Francois Joseph (Frans) Frequin (1760-1836). He was canonier during the French occupation in Holland.

See my website: https://creawiki.nl/familie-frequin-schmidt/

Rgds, Vincent

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Re: Criminal Register
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 February 22 07:56 GMT (UK) »
I seem to recall that Midlands assize records are defective for large periods, but I can't remember the dates.


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Re: Criminal Register
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 February 22 09:36 GMT (UK) »
I see now that it was at Middlesex Sessions.

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 February 22 11:00 GMT (UK) »
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Does anyone know more about 2nd Lt Joseph Frequin?
His birthday, his location before he go into the prison, .......?

Captured at Flushing, taken to Portsmouth, then to Forton, from there to Ashby de la Zouch
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Re: Criminal Register
« Reply #15 on: Monday 28 February 22 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

He is on Find my past
England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935

As Bradick Maynard - although image is Bradddick.





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Re: Criminal Register
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 March 22 14:41 GMT (UK) »
I found Joseph Frequin in Geneanet. He was a soldier for Napoleon, see:
https://nl.geneanet.org/samenwerkings-indexen/view/38900/3770

Just no idea yet why:
1) he was captured in Vlissingen in the Netherlands? and by who?
2) he was transferred to Yarmouth in Ashby?

Who can help me?

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 02 March 22 17:40 GMT (UK) »
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1) he was captured in Vlissingen in the Netherlands? and by who?

He was captured by "English Forces" at Flushing/Vissingen on 7 August 1809 during the Walcheren campaign
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FPOW-GALLIP%2F101506066%2F00063&parentid=GBM%2FPOW-GALLIP-NAP%2F262586

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walcheren_Campaign

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2) he was transferred to Yarmouth in Ashby?

I don't think he went to Yarmouth. That's possibly a misinterpretation of this record: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FPOW-GALLIP%2F15-0273_GB-SRY_ADM-103-NAVY-BOARD-AND-PREDECESSORS-P-555-CA-1755-1831%2F00010&parentid=GBM%2FPOW-GALLIP-NAP%2F40516594
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