Church Family in Wymington, Bedford

[trish1120]

I am now sure the 1841 census is correct and Joseph Perkins (Widower) Married (Widow) Elizabeth Gilbert in 1843.
1871 Census Sarah Church nee Perkins is born c 1830

That is one Marriage Cert I would purchase if I was you.
I will have his Fathers name and occp and if Joseph was Widowed and Elizabeths maiden name also.

Joseph GILBERT, Dec 1843, Wellingbro, 15 857

1851 Census
Wymington, Beds
HO107/1743/254/13
Joseph PERKINS, 49, Mar, Farm Labourer
Elizabeth , 49, Wife, Mar, born Oakley
William, 29, Unm, Shoemakers Son
Mary Ann, 20, Unm, Shoemakers Daug
Now looks like these are Elizabeth Gilberts Children from 1841 Census and Elizabeth deceased husband was a Shoemaker.

Charles./Sarah CHURCH + Son Joseph are living next door.

Sarah CHURCH age 67, Carpenters Widow, is living nearby with Son Gilbert and Wife Charlotte + their Children.

[trish1120]

1871 Census Joseph and Elizabeth are living alone.

1881 Census
Railway Hut,
Wymington, Beds
RG11/1568/30/20
Joseph PERKINS, 79, Head, Mar, Ag Lab
Elizabeth Perkins, 80, Wife, Mar, born Oakley
Elizabeth WOODING, 56, Lodger, Widow, Lacemaker
Ann Wooding, 1, Grand/Daug

On all Census I have posted all are born Wymington unless otherwise stated.
Notice Elizabeth Wooding is born c 1825.

From England Marriages on Familysearch;
Elizabeth PERKINS
Moses WOODING, 14 Dec 1845, Wymington, Bedford, England

So only one we are missing is Selina Christened 1829 who probably died.

Josephs st marriage;
Joseph PERKINS
Sarah DESBOROUGH
11 Jan 1825, Wymington, Bedford, England
(Source England Marriages 1538-1973)

Burial;
Sarah PERKINS, 15 June 1834, Wymington

[Nad81]

Notice Sarah church nee Gilbert is born c 1830 here.

Nee Gilbert, or Perkins? Sarah Perkins i thought was born c1830 we established... Sarah Gilbert is a whole generation earlier...

[trish1120]

I just typed up the wrong name.

[trish1120]

Ok Sarah PERKINS c 1830 married Charles CHURCH
Her Parents were JOSEPH Perkins and Sarah DESBOROUGH  and Sarah died 1834
Joseph remarried Elizabeth GILBERT 1843

(I will fix where I posted the wrong maiden name for Sarah )

[trish1120]

We also now know where Sarah CHURCH nee GILBERT, Charles Mother was now born from 1861 Census.

[Nad81]

Thank you so much

You are an absolute star!!

Just one more query (for now.. lol!!) the marriage certificate for Joseph Gilbert that is recommended i purchase,  is that Perkins who married a Gilbert? I assume it is... altho i daren't assume anything, i'll tie myself in knots!

[trish1120]

It IS very confusing Nad81
Joseph PERKINS,  Sarah/Elizabeth/Selenas Father was Widowed by 1841.
1841 he is living with Daug Sarah (who Married Charles Church) and his new Wife to be Elizabeth GILBERT + her 2 Children from her 1st Marriage.

From freebmd.org.uk
Marriages Dec 1843
Gilbert    Elizabeth        Wellingbro    15   857   
Perkins    Joseph         Wellingbro    15   857

Luckily it is one of the few Marriages that only 2 people are shown so we know they Married one another.
If you do get the Cert I would not be surprised if Joseph Married his Brothers Widow.
We will know this by finding her maidenname;
Eg Cert will say Elizabeth Gilbert, Widow, nee ..., Father John..., Ag Lab
Then we can find the Marriage and figure out if maybe Joseph had a Brother with that name.
The Cert should contain lots of info on Joseph also.

I think it is a good idea to sort out what we can confirm before going back too many generations.

Trish

[johnP-bedford]

You can view the parish records transcript up to 1812 at Bedford Central reference libary or at the Beds Archives at County (sorry Borough) Hall  - note they are closed Thursdays. The Archives also have microfilm of the parish registers from 1813 onwards.

The Beds Family History Society have created a CD of Wymington parish records
- follow the link    

http://www.bfhs.org.uk/

It maybe what Google found you

Also note if you are pretty sure you know where the marriage took place - the marriage certificate that you're planning to purchase - will be FREE to view from the PR microfilms at the Archives - as long as it post 1837. Wellingborough RD covers Wymington parish