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Offline ogohogoh

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Help identify date and place of birth please
« on: Sunday 20 February 11 00:15 GMT (UK) »
I am struggling to identify the date and place of birth of my grandfather William Weir.  He was said to have been born in, or lived at, Arthur Street, Edinburgh.  In 1906 he marries Jane Elmer in St. Georges, Hanover Square London. His 1914 regimental number was M2/033659.

I'm new to genealogy and would appreciate some help.  As William Weir is such a common name, is there any way of identifying his birth date and place of birth?

Many thanks, Fred

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Re: Help identify date and place of birth please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 February 11 00:26 GMT (UK) »
You would need to buy a copy of the 1906 marriage cert to establish his fathers name and occupation

Have you checked for him on the 1911 census to establish his birthyear and exact birthplace

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 February 11 00:30 GMT (UK) »
The only 1911 index entry that fits his name and a birthplace of Scotland and a Jane in the same household shows a birthyear of 1871.  They were living in Fulham London 

2 children - William D aged 4  and Edward J aged 2 and Jane was 26


USING THE FREE 1911 INDEX TO DETERMINE THE CORRECT HOUSEHOLD

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Once you find a possible match - make a note of the county and district in which the person was living

Return to the index and in PERSONAL DETAILS - just put the surname of the family - nothing else

In LOCATION - Select the county and below it - type in the district

In OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD - show the full name of the person you have found on the index

Click SEARCH

You will have to buy credits to view the full entry - the above instructions will only help to possibly show others of the same name in the same household
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Re: Help identify date and place of birth please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 February 11 00:34 GMT (UK) »
From freebmd

Births June qtr 1885
 
Jane Elmer  Chelsea  1a 356 - which seems to match the birthyear for Jane in 1911


The Scottish 1881 census has 26 entries for William Weir b 1870-1872

Only one in Edinburgh - b 1872 mother Jessie
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Re: Help identify date and place of birth please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 February 11 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Carole, that's really helpful. Fred

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 February 11 00:48 GMT (UK) »
You really need the marriage cert for confirmation but this may possibly be his parents.  The 1881 has a daughter Robina aged 10 b Edinburgh and Jessie is shown as "masons wife"

ROBINA WEIR   Birth:  24 APR 1870   Edinburgh, Midlothian   Father:  JAMES WEIR    Mother:  JESSIE CLYDE 

This is the full 1881 entry for Liberton - all children b Edinburgh

Jessie Weir 52 b Leith masons wife
Ellice   12
Robina 10
William   9
David  6
Liberton ED 3 Page  22 Line 1

But here's the possible complication - a middle name

WILLIAM PEARSON WEIR   birth 4.11.1871 Midlothian   
 
Father:  JAMES WEIR   Mother:  JESSIE CLYDE 

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