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James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« on: Saturday 19 February 11 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone enlighten me as to whether the Oxfordshire/Buckinghamshire boundry changed? I have a relative, James Perrin who was born in Hambledon, Bucks approx 1948 according to what he wrote in the 1881, 91 and 1901 census. But I can't find Hambledon as a parish in the information I have found on Bucks Family History site, nor on Oxfordshires.
Hambledon is near to Henley which is where a James Perrin is registered in 1843 but I don't know if its him.
In 1881 he is married to a Harriet who was born about 1847 and lists her birth place as Stoke Talmage in all her census reports. They are in Watlington in 1881, again listed in Oxfordshire but I can't find it listed in OFHS list of parishes. Ancestry seems to think its in Norfolk.
Their eldest child is Abrey J Perrin, born in Watlington in 1872. I can't find any birth records for him and although he comes up top of the list on the 1881 census there is no mention of him in the 1891 census.
Sorry, this is a bit rambling. Does anyone have any information about James or the areas that might clear up this mystery?

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Re: James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 February 11 18:26 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if these links maybe of any help info. from Genuki

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~malcolm/genuki/big/eng/OXF/

http://met.open.ac.uk/genuki/big/eng/BKM/Hambleden/index.html

http://www.genuki.weald.org.uk/OXF/Watlington/index.html

Definatley can't see Abrey J Perrin birth entry on FreeBMD 1872

Margaret Ellen Dec q 1874
Alice Mary Mar q 1877
Ernest Jun q 1880
all under district for Henley (which covers township/parish of Watlington)
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Re: James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 February 11 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much, that is a great help. I'll see what I can find out now.

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Re: James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 February 11 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Hambledon is in Buckinghamshire and has been for at least two hundred years.  It is about three miles north east of Henley on Thames which similarly has always been in Oxfordshire.  Watlington is about eight miles north west of Henley on Thames, also in Oxfordshire.

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Re: James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 February 11 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Elliefantasy,

Have still not found the birth entry of

Aubrey John PERRIN
born 1872 Wallington Oxford

he married 1899 Chichester

Alice Eliza Jane TICEHURST

free to search but cost credits to view, you can search using surname only Perrin and residence Chichester http://www.1911census.co.uk/

I think this could be Alice with her family

1881c 26, Orchard St, Chichester St Peter The Great Aka Sub-Deanery
TICEHURST, William Head Married M 34 1847 Cooper West Hampnett
TICEHURST, Eliza Wife Married F 32 1849 Midhurst
TICEHURST, Kate Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Midhurst
TICEHURST, William Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Midhurst
TICEHURST, Lucy Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Chichester
TICEHURST, Edith Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar Chichester
TICEHURST, Alice Daughter Single F 1 1880 Chichester Sussex






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Re: James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 February 11 11:33 GMT (UK) »
eldest child is Abrey J Perrin, born in Watlington in 1872.

I can't find any birth records for him and although he comes up top of the list on the 1881 census. There is no mention of him in the 1891 census.


This is the reason why you cannot find Aubrey John PERRIN 1901 census
and probably the reason he is not on 1891 census, he's probably enlisted in the Army and serving abroad

Info. from IGI familysearch pilot

William Aubrey PERRIN

Bn 07/12/1899
Ch.17/12/1899 Amritsar Bengal India
father Aubrey John PERRIN
mother Alice Eliza Jane

Doris Kathleen PERRIN
bn 3/11/1900
ch. 20/11/1900 Murree, Bengal India
died 1908 Chichester age 8 (1900)

Alice May PERRIN

bn 15/5/1902
ch. 15/5/1902 Murree, Bengal India
 
Joyce Adalaide PERRIN
Bn 9/05/1904
Ch. 22/05/1904 Ranikhet, Bengal India
F. Aubrey John PERRIN
M Alice Eliza Jane

FreeBMD

Harold C PERRIN
Sep 1913 Westhampnett
mmn Ticehurst

Leslie F PERRIN
Mar 1915 Chichester
mmn Ticehurst
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Re: James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 February 11 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Hambledon is in Buckinghamshire and has been for at least two hundred years.  It is about three miles north east of Henley on Thames which similarly has always been in Oxfordshire.  Watlington is about eight miles north west of Henley on Thames, also in Oxfordshire.

David

Thanks :-)
When I looked a bit further at the information given by Ladyhawk, I managed to confirm about both. What is disappointing is that as far as I can see, neither Hambledon nor Watlington parish records are available on CD from their respective county family history sites.

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Re: James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 February 11 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Oxfordshire FHS have published the Watlington parish registers on volume 2 of the South Oxfordshire Parish Registers CD.  This is I know available from Berkshire FHS and can be purchased on-line.

I would have expexted one of the two Bucks FHS to have published the Hambledon ones.  Have you checked the Bucks sources board on this site?
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Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: James Perrin in Oxford/Bucks, did the boundry change?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 February 11 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Oxfordshire FHS have published the Watlington parish registers on volume 2 of the South Oxfordshire Parish Registers CD.  This is I know available from Berkshire FHS and can be purchased on-line.

I would have expexted one of the two Bucks FHS to have published the Hambledon ones.  Have you checked the Bucks sources board on this site?

That's great, I couldn't find Watlington. I'll have a look at that CD now I know its there. I didn't know that there were 2 Bucks FHS, I'll have another look.