BAYRAM.

[a j bayram]

I am seeking information on the above surname and hope someone will come up trumps.

My Grandfather/Gt. Grandfather and Gt., Gt. Grandfather were all born in North Lincolnshire.  However, there are a number of Bayram's North of the Humber in East Yorkshire, especially around the Hull area.

My knowledge of these is, at best, sketchy (I have the family tree back to around 1800 but, no meat e.g. marriages etc.).

Any help appreciated.

It is believed that they may have originated from the West Yorkshire area.

Regards... Andrew.

[lizdb]

To be able to help, we really need a bit more detail.

You say you have a tree back to 1800 - is it reliable, or do you doubt it as it does not have evidence in it to back it up?

It would be starting with your most recent confirmed fact (maybe your grandfather or great grandfather, or whatever) and work back, checking marriages censuses etc as you go. This will have a two fold benefit, firtly it will check what you have, and secondly will fill in the gaps you have.

If you use FreeBMD and the censuses, you should be well away. But we are always willing to help here on Rootschat, so if you need help with a look up then do give us all the info you already have (names, dates places etc) and we wil help look for your missing item.

[a j bayram]

Have got in tree so far:-


Jack Drewery (Father) b1921 Plymouth;

George Drewery (G.F.) b1881 Grimsby (m Mabel Robinson 1911 @ Broughton); 3 siblings Mary b1877, John b1879 and Martha b1880 [last 2 died in infancy];

William Drewery (GGGF) b1857 Riby (m Dinah/Diana Drinkall @ Frodingham 1877);

John (GGGGF) b1832? Gt Coates  (m1856? firstly Martha Drewery [2 more wifes after?);

John (GGGGGF) b1806? Pontefract? (m? surname unknown).

There are a number of bayram's on freebmd but, a number do not tie up with the above.

My Grandfather, George b1881 (above) was one of 4 but the 2 mentioned as dying in infancy were aged 2 & 3 respectively and the surviving sister, Mary, appears to have disappeared without trace.  Other information has given me 4 suggestions as to her progress.

GGGGF (b1832) married twice? more after my GGGF was born (I assume this was due to widowhood) and this has resulted in further branches coming down as parallel lines.

As said earlier, most of the above were born in North Lincolnshire.

I hope this is what you ask for.

Regards... Andrew.

[lizdb]

Now you may think me rather thick, as I have probably missed something vital ... but can you confirm what surname we are looking at?
I thought it was Bayram, but now they are all listed as Drewery ...
or do they all have the middle name of Drewery?

Have answered this myself as I search .....

[lizdb]

OK, have found them in 1881 as Bayram, just before George is born.
Have you seen this? 1881 is free to search.

RG11 3271 12 18
Chalrton Terrace, Grimsby
Willy Bayram 24 Policeman bn Riby
Dinah wife 23 bn Rirton?
Mary 4 dtr bn Grimsby
John 2 son bn Grimsby
Martha 1 dtr bn Grimsby

[lizdb]

And here they are in 1891 - he does stick to being "Willy" not "WIlliam" it seems, and has finished his police career.

RG12 2613 65 17

76 Chapman Street Grimsby
Willie D Bayram 34 Timber Yard Merchant bn Riby
Dinah 32 wife bn Kirton Lindsey
Mary A E 14 bn Scunthorpe
George D 9 bn Grimsby

[lizdb]

1901
RG13 3091 91 19
same address
Willey D Bayram 44 Mar Timber yard foreman bn Riby
George D son 19 Apprentice fitter Iron and steel bn Grimsby

Although Willey says married he is actually widowed -

Death
Jan/Feb/Mar 1893
Caistor
Diana Bayram  age 32

And Willy dies :
Death
Jul/Aug/Sep 1907
Grimsby
Willy Drewery Bayram age 51

Have you got their death certs at all?

Actually the best thing to get would br a copy of Willey's WILL - that may mention daughter Mary and give a clue to her whereabouts.

There is an entry in the probate index -
Willey Drewery Bayram of 66 Cromwell Rd Grimsby died 17 Sep 1907, probate granted 18 Dec 1907 Executors Kate Jane Bayram widow and Charles Lister Timber Maerchants Clerk, Effects £826 - 4s - 9d

Kate Jane? did he marry again I wonder!

[lizdb]

Well I never! He was right when he said he was married in 1901 census -

MArriage
Oct/Nov/Dec 1896
Louth ref 7a 1307
Willey Drewery Bayram
one of brides on same page - Kate Jane Onn

Going back to 1901, Kate J Bayram, married, bn Lincoln, is a visitor in a househols on varios Onns in Fulstoe Lincolnshire
RG13 3087 89 14
so that all ties up nicely.

[lizdb]

Just to finish filling in the details of this family, before going back a generation, here are the births of the children -

George Drewery Bayram Oct/Nov/Dec 1881 Caistor ref 7a 630

Martha Bayram Ap/May/Jun 1880 Caistor ref 7a 690

John Willey Bayram Jan/Feb/Mar 1879 Caistor ref 7a 652

Mary was born before the marriage it seems, so registered in Dinah's maiden name-

Mary Ann E Drinkall Jan/Feb/Mar 1877 Glanford Brigg ref 7a 746


Here is the marriage, which I believe you have already-
Marriage
Jul/Aug/Sep 1877
Glahford Brigg 7a 1118
Dinah Drinkall / Willey Drewery Bayram on same page


And the deaths of Martha and John-

both Oct/Nov/Dec 1882
MArtha age 2, John Willey age 3