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Offline mallow

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« on: Thursday 17 February 11 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Hello, looking for the birth of Harriet Greatrex born about 1830- 1836 Armitage Stafford (dont know parents names) Thank you for any help

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« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 February 11 00:02 GMT (UK) »
Do you have Harriet on any census?

Who did she marry?

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 February 11 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you suz for reply,  she married George Williams from Stafford, have her on 1861 census of Stafford that is where I got her Birthplace from and her maiden name Greatrex came from her youngest daughters Birth certificate, I cannot find Harriets birth cert or her marriage cert

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 February 11 20:55 GMT (UK) »
In the 1861 census their 3-yr-old daughter Ann is shown with birthplace "America".  Have you considered that they may have married there?

1861: RG9/1906/43/5.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 February 11 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: mallow on Saturday 19 February 11 20:28 GMT (UK)
I cannot find Harriets birth cert or her marriage cert

There won't be a birth certificate if she was born before civil registration, as it appears from the 1861 census in which she was 35.  Civil registration only came in with effect from 1 July 1837.  Before that one would be looking for a baptismal record at best.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 February 11 21:03 GMT (UK) »
By 1871 George has remarried (to Dorothy Ann MOUNTFORD, Dec 1870 Stafford 6b 25).

Daughter Ann is enumerated as Ann C. WILLIAMS, 13,  born "Livingstone, America".

1871 ref: RG10/2816/6/5.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 February 11 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Try searching for Greatorex which is the surname I have come across a hell of a lot in SOuth Derbyshire Staffordshire

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 February 11 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you avm228 and Rob I have thought of America as marriage place but I would not know where to start looking,  as she gave her birth place as Armitage( I take it that is in Staffordshire) what churches would have been there in the  1830s when she was born

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 February 11 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: mallow on Saturday 19 February 11 22:12 GMT (UK)
Thank you avm228 and Rob I have thought of America as marriage place but I would not know where to start looking,  as she gave her birth place as Armitage( I take it that is in Staffordshire) what churches would have been there in the  1830s when she was born

Genuki is always the place to start to locate church records locations and churches see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/STS/Armitage/index.html#ChurchRecords

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WYATT, COX, STRATTON, all from south Derbyshire and the STS, LEI border Burns Fellows Gough Wilks from STS in particular Black Country and now heading into SOP
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