Torphichen

[Seoras]

Yes this happens and has quite a few times in my ancestry.I wondered why that Thomas was missing on the 1901 census.So it would seem your Thomas could have born elsewhere and moved to Bathgate.Back to the drawing board .Still it's all part of the fun and frustration of searching.I don't suppose it gives the parents ages on your grandfather's birth certificate.

George.

[holliemcbride]

Exactly, I did think with naivety that it would be easier then this. I have been in touch with the west Lothian Library who has kindly searched the valuation roll between 1931-1932 and 46-48 Russell Row has a tenant named Susan McBride registered there. Maybe another path to go down.

[Seoras]

Well at least by searching for McBride in Bathgate Hollie I am going to have several I have opened looking for mine,my gran Hannah McBride was born in Bathgate as was her father George and his father James moved there.There is a Susan born to a Susan McBride in Bathgate in 1900 but I think the entry below looks more promising.

George.

[Seoras]

Hey Hollie,this one looks more hopeful,the only other Thomas born in West Lothian in your timescale.Born Livingstone 1903,mother Susan McBride,father James McBride,married Bathgate 1896.Now where did they go to.Once again we need that 1911 census.Not long now though. 

Thomas McBride born Livingstone 17th December 1903

Father James McBride coalminer

Mother Susan McBride maiden name Foy

James and Susan married in Bathgate on June 15th 1896

I have this doc,if it proves to be yours I can email it to you.Given that both Thomas and Susan are living at Russell Row,this could well be yours

ps.if you do want it emailing only leave an email address on my Personal Message box not on the thread.

George.

[Seoras]

Hollie,good news,this is looking more like your Thomas now.It would appear that the date of marriage is wrong on Thomas's birth entry.James and Susan married in Bathgate on 23 September 1905 so after Thomas's birth.This means they were not married at Thomas's birth or it was an irregular marriage.This basically is where a couple just state they are married and move in together.My guess is they just said they were married.It could also explain why the birth took place in Livingstone when they were both from Bathgate.Anyway they eventually went through with it properly.It was a Catholic marriage and in Bathgate this would have been at the Church of The Immaculate Conception.My McBrides married in the same church.I will check their records tomorrow.

James lived at North St Bathgate

Susan,whose maiden name was Foy lived at RUSSELL ROW bathgate

James's parents were Myles McBride and Elizabeth(can't make the maiden name out,will work on it)

Susan's parents were Patrick Foy and Sarah Foy,maiden name Canning.

Like me I think you are going to find you are part Irish

George.

[Seoras]

1891 census Russell Row Bathgate

Patrick Foy  Head 50  Born Ireland
Sarah          wife  43   Born Ireland
 SUSAN    daughter unmarried 23 born Bathgate. This is Thomas's mother.
Michael    son 19  Born Ireland
Patrick     son 17  Born Bathgate
Thomas   son 15 Born Bathgate
Sarah      daughter 13  Born Bathgate
John       son 10 Born Bathgate
James    son 8 Born Bathgate
Peter     son 5 Born Bathgate
Martin   son 1 Born Bathgate

Have to rush off to work Hollie but I will email you these  docs as you asked tomorrow when I have the day off.

George

[Seoras]

Hi Hollie,more for you.I now have James McBride's mother's surname,it's Leyden.
Myles McBride and Elizabeth Leyden married in Bathgate on 17th December 1859.

Myles's parents were Hugh McBride and Margaret Mclean
Elizabeth's were Francis Leyden and Ann....still trying to work her surname out

Have it now it looks like it is Ann Fannin,another Irish name.

George.

[Seoras]

What we have at the moment.

                                        Thomas McBride
                                                     |
                             James McBride = Susan Foy
                             |                                    |
  Myles McBride = Elizabeth Leyden       Patrick Foy = Sarah Canning
           |                                   |
  Hugh McBride               Francis Leyden           
          =                                      =
Margaret McLean                Ann Fannin


We can track Thomas once the 1911 census is available in April.

George.

[Seoras]

Some more to add to the above Hollie.Sarah Canning's surname is Cannon,not Canning.

Patrick Foy  a 30 year old widower and pit worker married Sarah Cannon a 22 year old farm worker living  at Westfield Farm in Bathgate on 12th February 1867.

Patrick's parents were Michael and Mary Foy.(still trying to work out Mary's maiden name)Michael was a blacksmith.

Sarah's parents were Hugh Cannon and Susan O'Donnell
Hugh was a farmer.

Add on.the thinking now is Mary Foy's maiden name is Mary Cox.


George.