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Re: Could some lovely person brighten this photo up please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 February 11 12:47 GMT (UK) »
You can see the evidence of compression quite clearly when you look at the lady's skirt, very large block appearance.  This would not be so evident with 300 dpi.

I suggest using the resizing link or sending a PM to a restorer so they can receive the file by email and resize it for you.  However, I still don't think the facial details will be much clearer, but it's worth a try.

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Re: Could some lovely person brighten this photo up please
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 February 11 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Pels, but I have a different opinion.   :P  ;D  600dpi creates a much bigger file that requires a lot of compression to resize if not done correctly.  I would prefer to see a scan at 300dpi (which is industry standard) and thus requiring less resizing and subsequently, less compressin.

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I totally agree about the 600, I myself struggle with it, but I know some people do prefer it. From my point of view 300dpi is far better. What I was meaning, 600dpi is preferred to something far lower - 72dpi for example.

I was referring to how the image is being saved and therefore compressed !  :(

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Re: Could some lovely person brighten this photo up please
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 February 11 12:54 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Pels, what I'm suggesting is that the pic be rescanned at 300dpi and resized which makes life easier!

I must change my tut, I know I state 300 - 600 in it, but at the time I never realised people would have so much trouble with resizing.  Life would be so much easier if we all had the same software!  ;D

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 February 11 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cazza and Pels  :)

I think that you are both in agreement but it looks as if Cazza has misunderstood what Pels said. We have spent hours and hours on threads talking about this problem. My hair has slowly lost it's colour since when we started  ;D

As I read it,  Pels was saying that the main problem with this file was the compression that is needed to get an image under 500 kb when you have a 600 dpi scan. I think that this is what Cazza is saying as well.- well, she's always said this to me in the past  ;D

I've always maintained that it is better to have a 300 dpi  scan with no compression, given the file limitation size that we have here. Sadly, recently there has been a glut of very small, highly compressed images put up for restoration and many people are restoring them rather than referring the requester to the very good tutorials by Cazza and Prue (and the advice by Jim, which Pels refers to).


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Re: Could some lovely person brighten this photo up please
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 February 11 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone. I took this photo off a negative that used to belong to my Grandma. I did think that perhaps (my Grandma and Dad) had moved. I can see the picture much more which is great.

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Re: Could some lovely person brighten this photo up please
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 February 11 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget

I didn't misunderstand, I was just concerned that Pels comment about "nothing wrong with the resolution at 600" would be interpreted literally, as I have been trying again recently to get people to stop scanning at 600 (or anything other) than 300 as it's definitely the most suitable for Rootschat, simply because of the file size restriction.

As you know, we've been flogging this issue for years now, don't think it will ever go away, but I thought I'd give it another shot.

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Re: Could some lovely person brighten this photo up please
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 17 February 11 14:47 GMT (UK) »




Sorry Pels, but I have a different opinion.   :P  ;D  600dpi creates a much bigger file that requires a lot of compression to resize if not done correctly.  I would prefer to see a scan at 300dpi (which is industry standard) and thus requiring less resizing and subsequently, less compressin.

Caz

Me again !!  :-[ ;D

Oh heck I was only trying to be diplomatic. As you've already mentioned you stipulate in your tutorial, as does Prue, that 600dpi is preferable :





Just had another look your tutorial - on page 12 and 13 you are actually advising people to compress. By sliding the slider to the left, it compresses it into a smaller file.






My concern was the compression - nothing more.

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Re: Could some lovely person brighten this photo up please
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 17 February 11 15:10 GMT (UK) »
 ??? ???  I've already said in an earlier post that when I wrote that I had no idea people would have so much trouble resizing, otherwise I would have put it at 300!  I've said many times recently that the tut needs to be amended, that's why I have been stating on threads that 300 is preferable until I get time to amend the tut.  It's nothing personal!

Oh and thanks for posting Chesters picture...he passed away last week.  :'(

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Re: Could some lovely person brighten this photo up please
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 17 February 11 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Oh and just for the record, when I wrote that tut, we were not aware of any resizing software.  Perhaps you would like to rewrite the tut, please feel free.

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