West Ham Electoral roll look up

[RobinC1978]

Please could someone look up Ellen Crouch who was living at 25 Norfolk Street, Forest Gate circa 1918 and also Herbert Crouch at 26 King Georges Avenue, Custom House circa 1934.

I am trying to locate Herbert who is proving to be quite elusive despite appearing at the following times:

1891 census with his family
1907 at his first marriage to Ellen Taylor
1916-18 on his Army Pension Record
1934 at his second marriage to Lilian Gallagher nee Crump (states he is a widower but no sign of Ellen's death)
1938 when he dies at the age of 55

I would be most grateful for any help.

 

[Valda]

Hi

Welcome to Rootschat


Hopefully someone may offer to do the lookup for you, but if not it would be worth contacting Newham Archives to see if they hold the electoral registers for the years you are interested in and whether they will do a lookup for you?


http://www.newham.gov.uk/EntertainmentandLeisure/Libraries/LibraryReferenceServices/ArchivesAndLocalHistory/Servicesatthearchivesandlocalstudieslibrary.htm



Regards

Valda

[carol8353]

Hi there

Don't forget that women didn't get the vote till the late 1920's so may not appear on electoral rolls till then.

Carol

[RobinC1978]

Thank you for the welcome.

I forgot that women didn't get the vote until 1928 (I think) but I'm hoping Herbert shows up on the electoral rolls regularly as there's no trace of him on the 1901 or 1911 censuses for some reason or another!

I'm guessing that Ellen either died or left Herbert sometime between 1918 & 1934 but can't pinpoint either happening as yet.

I'll contact Newham to see if they can shed any light on the subject.

[carol8353]

I've just started reading his Army pension record and it states that he was poorly(Rheumatic Fever) and spent some time in hospital. It says at the age of 31 he was there for 9 months.Does that coincide with 1911? Have you tried looking for him in an institution with either just his initial H Crouch or even just as HC.

Were there any children born around 1911- so that might give you an address or rough area?

Carol

[RobinC1978]

He would have been 31 in 1914 so that just misses the 1911 census, I did try to look for a H. Crouch or H. C. on the census but have had no luck so far. It's frustrating as he doesn't appear to have left the West Ham area during his life from the events I've seen so far.

Although he did state he was treated at West Ham Infirmary & a London hospital prior to enlistment to the army.

It also states the disability originated in 1912 in London.

[Valda]

Hi

'The Representation of the People Act 1918 widened suffrage by abolishing practically all property qualifications for men and by enfranchising women over 30 who met minimum property qualifications.

Women over 30 years old receive the vote but they have to be either a member or married to a member of the Local Government Register'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representation_of_the_People_Act_1918


Regards

Valda

[RobinC1978]

Were there any children born around 1911- so that might give you an address or rough area?

Carol

I haven't been able to narrow down any children between 1907 & 1911 for Herbert & Ellen and there are no children born from the December quarter of 1911 onwards whose mother had the maiden name of Taylor.

How can I find out if any of the Crouch births between 1907 & 1911 were offspring of Herbert & Ellen?

[RobinC1978]

These are possible births though:

Births Sep 1907
CROUCH  Albert Douglas H     W. Ham  4a 327
CROUCH  Phyllis Margaret     W. Ham  4a 212

Births Dec 1907
CROUCH  Alice May     W. Ham  4a 174   
CROUCH  Frederick Robert J     W. Ham  4a 348

Births Sep 1908
CROUCH  Blanche Phoebe     W. Ham  4a 489

Births Jun 1909
Crouch  Bertha Joyce     W. Ham  4a 296   
Crouch  William Archibald H     W. Ham  4a 350

Births Sep 1909
CROUCH  Reginald Ernest     W. Ham  4a 224

Births Jun 1910
CROUCH  Leonard John     W. Ham  4a 119   
CROUCH  Robert Percy     W. Ham  4a 15

Births Dec 1910
CROUCH  Dorothy W     W. Ham  4a 408   
CROUCH  Ethel B     W. Ham  4a 141

Births Jun 1911
Crouch  Osmond R     W.Ham  4a 266

I would ask the GRO to do a check for me but it'll cost a fortune and pay day is over a week away yet.

The only birth in that list that I can would be suitable is that of Robert Percy but he dies in the same time period so I can't trace him to see who his parents were.