Any info on Jon Pirat 1575 ( his wife)

[apanderson]

Sorry - I don't have anything on Pirret or any variation.

I had a look at the Mitchell's pre-1855 MI book but there's nothing there either.

There are the following (initials only): [The 'No.s' represent the numbers in the book and have nothing to do with Lair Numbers]

JP & MA  (No. 282)
JP & JF   (No. 430)
JP & ET   (No. 430)
JP & MW  (No. 350)

No. 282 - On this same stone are various members of the Patrick Family, so JP will almost certainly be a J. Patrick & wife MA

No. 430 -  On this stone also are various members of the Patrick Family, so JP will be as above

No. 430 - Same stone as before, probably a different generation

No. 350 - Nothing else apart from the years 1724 and 1760. (This stone also has a later inscription - a William Harley

Anne

[Ruskie]

Hi Ruskie

As I said in my first message, there are no births/baptisms for those dates:

Hi

I've just run a baptism check on P*r*t*  (no first names) in Kylsyth 1538-1854 on SP.

22 entries come up. The nearest to the Margaret (variations) is 11 Sept 1622:

Margreat Pirret d/o William Pirret

I would be interested in the source of your information.

JL

JL

PS  - the snip is from her marriage/banns not a baptism

Margaret and William are the son and Daughter, I was giving the info of my anscestors by a relation, I have done research myself through scotlands people where I found Margarets marriage certificate ( different spelling). I made a mistake I do not have the birth certificate for Margaret only the marriage 25th July 1621

No I understand all that JL - It's just that I thought that the word looked like bapt. 

[JustLooking]

It does a bit - funny old writing!

I've just had a look at the page and under each entry there is a similar word. I wonder if there was a check on a baptism before Banns were called or is it Banns and not Bapt 

Lucky to get back that far though. I've only managed that on a couple of main lines.


JL

[john.pirret]

Thanks for the info the only info I have is;

Jon PIRRET (aka Pirat) was born about 1575 in Scotland.
Jon married someone.

His children were:
William PIRRET (aka Pirat) was born about 1598.
John PIRRET (aka Pirat) was born about 1600 in Scotland and died in Mar 1658 aged about 58.
Margaret PIRRET (aka Pirat) was born about 1600 in Scotland. Margaret married Johne HAY on 25 Jul 1621.

They know who the children are but cant find the wife.

[Ruskie]

Saying someone was born "abt" a year, rings alarm bells as that is usually how submitted records on the IGI are written.

These are often just guesses sometimes calculated from year of marriage or births of children for example. Even worse, some appear to be simply invented. These unproven guesses are then added to people's trees and taken as gospel by anyone tracing this line.

I don't know how to suggest that you check these as I've never traced back that far myself.  I've had a quick look and can't see anything that mentions how early the PR's for the area begin.

I don't think there is anything here:
http://www.kilsyth.org.uk/history.html but there may be someone you can contact who can point you in the right direction.

As well as just looking for the marriage, my suggestion of looking for the children's baptisms, and maybe Jon's death may lead somewhere? 

But, frustratingly, there may be nothing there to be found ....