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Dwyer Mystery...
« on: Tuesday 15 February 11 20:31 GMT (UK) »
I know little of the heritage of my Grandfather Dennis (born 1922) he died in 1980 leaving no record of his past. Knowing only his fathers name and the area of his birth i found on the censuses his parents (Edward and Bridget) and his paternal grandmother (Ellen).
Their addresses according to the cenuses are as follows:

1901: -    Ellen Dwyer (Edward’s Mother) – House 43 in Bewley Street (New    Ross Urban, Wexford)

   Edward and Bridget Dwyer – House 50 in File 2 Shannon Hill    (Enniscorthy Rural, Wexford)

1911: -   Edward and Bridget Dwyer – House 50 in St. John's Street    (Enniscorthy Urban, Wexford)

any further help would be much appreciated...
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Re: Dwyer Mystery...
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Do you have a marriage cert for Dennis ?

That would confirm his father's name and also give his father's occupation and thereby help to confirm the census records you found.


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Re: Dwyer Mystery...
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 20:34 GMT (UK) »
we don't but we are pretty certain that the Edward on the Census is his father - the sons and daughter match up more-or-less with his siblings.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 20:41 GMT (UK) »
It's probably worth confirming that link with a marriage cert at some point... you dont want to spend a lot of time investigating the wrong family. With a name like Dwyer you also need to consider O'Dwyer as a possible variation.

Assuming those Dwyer families are the correct ones, what details are you trying to find out ?

to start you off have a look at :

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Cheers for the advice I'll try to get on to that but knowing how my Nan was with papers I may be out of luck.

A). General information, ancestors, history - I'll take whatever I can get

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Starting with the 1911 census - Dwyer household 1911

The family are RC, all are Co. Wexford born and the parents are married about 11 years, so c1900.

The first step is to try to establish Bridget's maiden name. The best way to do this is to search for a birth of one of the children. The youngest child, or sometimes one with the least common name, is usually the best to search for. The town of Enniscorthy is located in a registration district of the same name, so that narrows down the area. (see the introduction link for the BMD Index)

There's just one good match for the birth of Edward jnr, so that might be the place to start :

 Name: Edward Dwyer
 Registration district: Enniscorthy
 Event type: Birth
 Quarter and year: Jan-Mar 1907
 Volume : 4 / Page :   541

A cert for that birth will show details such as father's name and occupation, place and date of birth, mothers maiden name etc. Once you have a confirmed maiden surname the search for the marriage is much easier.

It might also be an idea to then search for a birth cert for Dennis to confirm that he is part of this family. This index record looks like it could be a possible match to your clues:

 Name: Denis Dwyer
 Registration district: Enniscorthy
 Event type: Birth
 Quarter and year: Jan-Mar 1922
 Volume : 4 / Page : 403


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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank-you very much - very helpful.

Where is the link to this BMD index? thank-you
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 21:26 GMT (UK) »
there's a possible cross match for the marriage of Edward snr and Bridget in the area around the right time :

 Name: Edward Dwyre
 Registration district:   Enniscorthy
 Event type: Marriage
 Quarter and year: Oct-Dec 1899
 Volume : 4 / Page : 259

 Name: Bridget Cahill
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This Bridget's marriage references (year/quarter, reg. district, volume & page) are the same as Edward's which mean they could have married each other. Several marriages appear on the same page,  so it is possible to have a false match with common names.

This could be confirmed, or ruled out, based on a birth cert for Denis or one of the children listed on the census.


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Re: Dwyer Mystery...
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 21:28 GMT (UK) »
excellent news i'll try to get right on this
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