Tragic Hunt family

[ballydw]

Actually thinking about things Aileen had her last child in 1916 and in William Hunts Death notice and funeral arrangements she isn't mentioned, seeing as Ernestine is mentioned does anyone know if this is significant?? Was it a case because Lady Ernestine sent a Wreath was why she was mentioned, if it's not usual for the Daughter in law to be omitted, then it puts a time frame on when things happened...

Aileen was mentioned in Mary Hunts obituary notice in 1907 " a wreath from Miss Elmhurst", but she hadnt married by then

[loudam]

ballydw

I saw that after I posted that he had died in WW1...

I also did wonder why as the Girlfriend of her son she was mentioned in Mary Hunts Obituary, whereas as William Hunts Daughter In Law she wasn't mentioned in his obituary.. This might give the time frame as to when what ever happened actually happened..... Plus the comment by one of her children that if her father had been a stronger man he would never have allowed his kids to be sent away suggests to me that Aileen was the one who suggested the kids be sent away and seeing as he died in 1920 then it only leaves about 4 years for all of this to happen....

[ballydw]

Loudam, obviously when she was mentioned in Marys obituary they werent yet married but by time her husband died, there must have been problems, cant recall exact yearWilliam died.
Beginning to wonder did she change her name, as I have searched under maiden/married names, all scenarios to no avail.
Did find a death for Aileen L Hunt b. about 1877 d. 1955 Uxbridge, Middlesex UK
Ellen M Hunt b. 1875 D. 1930, Lambeth Greater London
Ellen M Hunt b. c 1876 d. 1963 New Forest Hampshire UK
Unfortunately there is no way of knowing if any of these apply.

Someone posted earlier who was related to Aileens  son Wyndham Norman, but its totally perplexing to say the least that any of her children wouldnt have had information/contact in later years in spite of any problems that were there that prompted Aileen to send them all away.

[aghadowey]

Remember that Robert Hunter and Aileen Elmhirst were cousins- so not unusual that she is mentioned when Mary died (especially if Robert and Aileen were engaged at the time).

It's not a bit surprising that the children would not know details of what happened to their parents. It may even be that they were told different versions by the people looking after them if told anything at all.

[loudam]

William died in 1919.... for her to be omitted from the obituary and one of her children saying their father should have been a stronger man would suggest something happened before 1919 because Robert died in 1920.....

I think an obituary for Robert Hunt might shed a little more light on things too...

I wonder about her name too, or did she change it to something like Mary Hunt, Ann Hunt etc, the typical irish names which there are a few death records for that might be worth mellowmom ordering especially Limerick and Clare ones, because while the name might not be the name she was known as the name of an informant or the address might give some of a clue....

We have a situation in our family where we can't trace my grandmothers mother, we suspect one woman and we think someone does know who her mother was but just won't say and I know my dad and his siblings as kids when they asked about her family we're given a fairly sharp warning of don't ask again!

[loudam]

It's not a bit surprising that the children would not know details of what happened to their parents. It may even be that they were told different versions by the people looking after them if told anything at all.

This is what we're finding with my fathers family, all of his siblings have different versions of the same story, and all have little snippets of info that make the puzzle a little clearer as time goes on, but it is very obvious that no one asked questions back in those days...

[aghadowey]

The obituaries for W.L. Hunt is typical of ones in Irish newspapers of the time. Chief mourners & wreaths, dignitaries mentioned but often there were errors and omissions in such reports so I don't think it's significant as far as Aileen goes. Robert's omission is more interesting (women didn't attend funerals and Robert was the son after all)- possible reasons are endless but here are just a few:
illness (tuberculosis, cancer- both taboo subjects)
alcohol or drug problems (yes, even then)
mental illness (certainly misunderstood and not talked about)

[loudam]

I must be having a slow moment, but where it says Captain H.B Hunt, R.N. (Son)  I took the R.N to be  Robert!

[ballydw]

Death for Ellen Hunt est birth year 1874. Registered March 1946 Cork. Vol 5 Page 85