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Re: Tragic Hunt family
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 20 February 13 23:51 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Tragic Hunt family
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 21 February 13 00:18 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if there is an Elmhirst family vault somewhere?
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Re: Tragic Hunt family
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 21 February 13 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Both 1881 /91 give Aileens father Lt General Charles Elmhirst as born Holton Lincolnshire c 1816.
Would imagine there is a family vault somewhere. however, 25 year age gap between him and Aileens mother,Frances Dorothy.
Is she the second wife.

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Re: Tragic Hunt family
« Reply #75 on: Thursday 21 February 13 09:26 GMT (UK) »
Link to Elmhirst family tree posted earlier in thread- only the one marriage showing but perhaps he married later in life if a career officer-

It seems that Robert Wyndham Hunt married his first cousin Aileen Melita Elmhirst on 20 Nov.1909 (fits with marriage registration I found)- her mother was Frances Dorthea Hunt (both her parents were dead before Aileen's marriage).
See here
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Re: Tragic Hunt family
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 21 February 13 11:09 GMT (UK) »
A most interesting Elmhirst family tree.
Can now understand why Aileens place of birth is given as India on 1911.
Father Charles Elmhirst commanded the Mysore Div 1 A from 1875 to 1879.
Its going to be difficult to pin down a family vault for this family, members being scattered in Ontario, Yorkshire/Lincolnshire England besides Australia. Can well understand how Aileens burial place has never been discovered. Would imagine it was never intended to be, especially as her childrens whereabouts and names were also changed. Wonder if it was a medical problem that Aileen had, not necessarily a mental one, there have been cases where children were removed from mothers with a certain condition which would rather not mention on here.
Obviously first place to look for her burial must be Ireland, her name has been altered somehow.
Not much help, but am fascinated by this story.
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Re: Tragic Hunt family
« Reply #78 on: Thursday 21 February 13 11:25 GMT (UK) »
I only have the basic FindMyPast subscription so cannot access this.

Sounds interesting,Brionne.
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Re: Tragic Hunt family
« Reply #79 on: Thursday 21 February 13 11:30 GMT (UK) »
This is what I love about Genealogy, you get an odd family story, opinions of people from different countrys where different traditions were followed and you get some very interesting responses!

To me it looks like Aileen Elmhirst might have just possibly not wanted kids, had them, then her husband died and she wasn't particulary interested in them, in Ireland at that time there were quite a lot of kids living with other people, sometimes they just simply couldn't afford them so family members took them in seeing as it was the time of the Easter Rising in Ireland it's highly possible that the children were dispersed to ensure they were looked after, there are so many possiblities but I really do think that death cert form 1921 would be the best starting point at this stage to see if its for the right person firstly and if so what his marital status was.....

Just browsing the Prison records on Familysearch and came across this record for a George Hunt
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMQF-36F
1911 George Hunt, prisoner, Cork Co. Cork, age 29, born Newcastle West, Desert From Royal Scots Fusiliers
O Riordan/Riordan / Dorgan/ Barry (Cork & Rathcooney)
O Sullivan & O Shea/Shea (Cork)
O Connell (Cork)
Walsh (Cork & Killarney)
Baldwin & Stanton, Sullivan, (Cork)
Lonergan (Cork, Tipperary, Limerick)
Deady ( Cork-Kanturk)

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Re: Tragic Hunt family
« Reply #80 on: Thursday 21 February 13 11:41 GMT (UK) »
I can't see any indication in anything found so far that indicated Aileen didn't want or wasn't interested in her children. The last trace of her is really the birth of the twins in 1916. Family story was that she and Robert died 1940 and we now have indication that Robert died 1920 not 1940 so date for Aileen's death could be off as well.
Years ago children were generally not given any explanations of what was going on in the family and splitting up children was quite common as there probably wasn't any relation that could taken several children into their home.
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