Howarths in Radcliffe

[nthack]

Hello,

I am looking for information on James Walch Howarth and his father John Walch Howarth.
John died in 1856 and was married to Elizabeth Walker in 1852. His occupation was "cotton manufacturer". James died in 1886, divorced, alcoholic and extremely wealthy.
Does this rimg any bells with anyone? Surnames of Walch, Mather, Walker and Howarth from Radcliffe are ll possibles.
John was 33 when he died of TB.

Help please.

[garstonite]

Hiya ...according to www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
John Walsh Howarth married Elizabeth Walker in 1852 at St Marys ,  Radcliffe,   Bury  CE22/2/113

was WALCH a mis spelling -or do you have him as WALCH and not WALSH ?
allan
his death is also John Walsh Howarth aged 33 in 1856   so born 1822/23
allan
this looks good .....SAME CHURCH
13th November 1820 marriage of  James Howarth to Sarah Hoyle  a possible mother for John ?

[Mr. MIGKY]

Hiya ...according to www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
John Walsh Howarth married Elizabeth Walker in 1852 at St Marys ,  Radcliffe,   Bury  CE22/2/113 *

was WALCH a mis spelling -or do you have him as WALCH and not WALSH ?
allan
his death is also John Walsh Howarth aged 33 in 1856   so born 1822/23
allan *
this looks good .....SAME CHURCH
13th November 1820 marriage of  James Howarth to Sarah Hoyle  a possible mother for John ?

* John Walsh Howarth married Elizabeth Walker Johns father was called Thomas Howarth Elizabeth Walker's father call William Walker. Married on 26th July 1852

* John Walsh Howarth aged 33 in 1856 died 26th May 1856.

Migky 
 

[nthack]

Thanks for your quick replies. I am afraid there is nothing new here.
I have John's death cert and he was 33, so born in 1823.
I have his marriage cert to Elizabeth Walker in 1852 too.
There is a John Walsh Howarth baptised in Radcliffe in 1840. If this was him, he would have been 17. Parents are Thomas Howarth and Ann Walch.
No sign of him in 1841 and 1851 census.
No sign of his probate either, so I'm not sure where the money came from.
The Walkers were farmers, but not particularly wealthy.
Any cotton mills of Radcliffe experts out there?

[Mr. MIGKY]

http://www.spinningtheweb.org.uk/industry/

Migky 

[mosiefish]

1851 census:

Stand Lane, Pilkington

Thomas Haworth, Head, Wid, 57, Cotton Gingham Manufacturer, Bury
John, Son, U, 27, Cotton Gingham Manufacturer, Radcliffe
James Hoyle, Nephew, U, 25, Warper, Pilkington

Regards,
Mo

[Mr. MIGKY]

I take you also know John Walsh Howarth aged 33 in 1856 died 26th May 1856, is buriad in ST. Mary's radcliffe ?

Migky 

[mosiefish]

Possible death for Thomas:

Thomas Howarth, aged 64 registered in the sub district of Pilkington in 1857.

Mo

[Mr. MIGKY]

Thomas Howarth buried in ST. Mary's Radcliffe April 30th 1857 age 64.

Migky