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Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« on: Friday 11 February 11 22:02 GMT (UK) »
I have a number of missing birth registrations from St Helens, and I have the baptism records of each of them, so very puzzling.  They are:

1)  Peter Begley, Sept 1884
2)  Henry Begley, June 1886
3)  Abraham Begley, Feb 1888
4)  Ignatius Begley, Aug 1890
5)  Joseph Begley, Jan 1893

They had 11 children and all were baptised in the same Low House RC Chapel, in St Helens, and 6 registered, so why on earch are these not registered?  Such a puzzle!
Begley - St Helens & Liverpool & somewhere in Ireland.
Foster - Liverpool & Yorkshire (Ripon & Leeds)
Pendleton - Huyton & Liverpool
Milnes - Leeds & Ripon
Banister - Preston
Wales - Liverpool & Cumberland
Ireland - Prescot
McDonough - Liverpool
Quirk - Liverpool
Hunt - St Helens
Tickle - St Helens

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Re: Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 February 11 09:50 GMT (UK) »
I have a number of missing birth registrations from St Helens, and I have the baptism records of each of them, so very puzzling.  They are:

1)  Peter Begley, Sept 1884
2)  Henry Begley, June 1886
3)  Abraham Begley, Feb 1888
4)  Ignatius Begley, Aug 1890
5)  Joseph Begley, Jan 1893

They had 11 children and all were baptised in the same Low House RC Chapel, in St Helens, and 6 registered, so why on earch are these not registered?  Such a puzzle!
Maybe the spelling of the name was different,  Bagley possibly.

Or maybe they registered in a nearby Registration district.
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Re: Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 February 11 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for reply.  I've searched under every variation of Begley that I can think of.  Also looked at all registration districts in Lancashire, and then in desperation looked at every county!  Is it possible that there is a batch of birth registrations missing do you think?  I find it odd that children they had before and after this little group, are registered.  And they did baptise them.
Begley - St Helens & Liverpool & somewhere in Ireland.
Foster - Liverpool & Yorkshire (Ripon & Leeds)
Pendleton - Huyton & Liverpool
Milnes - Leeds & Ripon
Banister - Preston
Wales - Liverpool & Cumberland
Ireland - Prescot
McDonough - Liverpool
Quirk - Liverpool
Hunt - St Helens
Tickle - St Helens

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Re: Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 February 11 07:03 GMT (UK) »
Try West Derby or Prescot registration districts.

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Re: Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 February 11 10:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you ellis but I have tried every registration district in Lancashire.  I keep going back to it all the time but they are not to be found.  I am sure there must be a chunk of missing registrations from that period.
Begley - St Helens & Liverpool & somewhere in Ireland.
Foster - Liverpool & Yorkshire (Ripon & Leeds)
Pendleton - Huyton & Liverpool
Milnes - Leeds & Ripon
Banister - Preston
Wales - Liverpool & Cumberland
Ireland - Prescot
McDonough - Liverpool
Quirk - Liverpool
Hunt - St Helens
Tickle - St Helens

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Re: Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 February 11 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Found a reference to Maria Begley d of Rosea Begley born 28 May 1908.

She was baptised at St Joseph's Peasley Cross.

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Re: Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 February 11 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Have you contacted St Helens Register Office and asked them about the registrations of these children?

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Re: Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 February 11 21:43 GMT (UK) »
John - don't know who that is; presume it's Latin for Mary daughter of Rose.  I haven't got a Rose in the family.

Gibel - I have been to St Helens Library, which is where I found the baptisms, on microfiche.  I haven't been to the Register Office.  Would they have anything different from all the available online birth registrations?

Anyway, thanks for your interest folks!
Begley - St Helens & Liverpool & somewhere in Ireland.
Foster - Liverpool & Yorkshire (Ripon & Leeds)
Pendleton - Huyton & Liverpool
Milnes - Leeds & Ripon
Banister - Preston
Wales - Liverpool & Cumberland
Ireland - Prescot
McDonough - Liverpool
Quirk - Liverpool
Hunt - St Helens
Tickle - St Helens

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Re: Missing Birth Records - BEGLEY St Helens
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 February 11 21:58 GMT (UK) »

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She was baptised at St Joseph's Peasley Cross.
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John - I'd never heard of Peasley Cross until you just mentioned it, so I Googled it.  Did you know there was an explosion there in 1899 at the Alkali works?   It was in Old Mersey Times.

Begley - St Helens & Liverpool & somewhere in Ireland.
Foster - Liverpool & Yorkshire (Ripon & Leeds)
Pendleton - Huyton & Liverpool
Milnes - Leeds & Ripon
Banister - Preston
Wales - Liverpool & Cumberland
Ireland - Prescot
McDonough - Liverpool
Quirk - Liverpool
Hunt - St Helens
Tickle - St Helens