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Mary DWYER death
« on: Sunday 13 February 11 03:23 GMT (UK) »
Mary MAHER (parents Edmond/Edmund and Ellen) b abt 1859, Toberadora, Tipperary married Thomas DWYER at St Mary's, Heathcote Victoria 19 Jul 1880.  She was his second wife.

Children of this (that I have found) marriage: Honora(h) Kate b abt 1881, Edward John b 1883 and Richard Charles 18 Sep 1884.  (Thomas's first wife died in childbirth at end of 1879 so I doubt that
I cannot see a birth for Kate (as she was known in the family). As Thomas's first wife died in childbirth at end of 1879 I doubt that Kate's birth would be mcuh earleier than late 1880 - not impossilbe, of course  ;)

However what I would really like to find is the death for Mary.  (I haven't yet got Thomas's death cert.)

The family lived in Mia Mia (registration district - Heathcote) for a long time; Thomas was the publican of the Mia Mia Inn and later a Shire Rate Collector.  I have lots of info on him but almost nothing about Mary.

TIA  ;D  Judith


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Re: Mary DWYER death
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 February 11 03:51 GMT (UK) »
Judith

Was your Thomas the one who is buried at Heathcote Cemetery and died 3/6/1910 aged 53?

Sue
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Re: Mary DWYER death
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 February 11 03:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sue - too many DWYERs in Heathcote/Kyneton etc   ;)

My Thomas is this one:

1916, #14582
Thos Dwyer 67
Death Place: Heathcote, Victoria
Father: Dwyer Michael,  Mother:Ellen Mccarthy

He may well have been buried in Kyneton but I would think more likely Heathcote.  I shouldn't be so parsimonious and just buy the cert.   ::)

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Mary DWYER death
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 February 11 04:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Judith,

Don't know if this is your Mary, but

Mary Dwyer died 1930, age 71 at Heathcote.  Reg#9829.
Parents recorded as John Maher and Ellen Maher.

Cheers,

Janet.


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Re: Mary DWYER death
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 February 11 05:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Judith,
I do not see the right THOMAS with headstone at Kyneton.

{Just seems to me  like the sort of chap who would have had one by his position n the community}

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Re: Mary DWYER death
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 February 11 05:36 GMT (UK) »
Judith,

Thomas Dwyer and Mary Maher also had another daughter:

Annie Dwyer born 1899, at Redesdale, Reg#29304
Anne Dwyer died 1899, at Redesdale, Reg#15716

Cheers,

Janet.

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Re: Mary DWYER death
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 February 11 07:01 GMT (UK) »
Thank you , Janet and Sue.

I had not seen the baby Annie's birth and death so I appreciate that.

Thanks to another R'chatter (such kindness - thank you!) I now have the cert and he was buried in Kyneton. where his parents are buried, 29 October 1916.  Is there MIs for his parents?  Michael DWYER d 14 Aug 1884, Ellen DWYER d 6 Oct 1905.  They are definitely at Kyneton.

The Mary DWYER that you found, Janet, certainly looks a possibilty.

Mary's father is definitely Edmond on the marriage certificate, but who knows?  I do not have an arrival for her; no idea if she came alone or with her parents - too many Mary MAHERs! The witnesses to the marriage were not of her surname.  She has always been a bit of a mystery - no family stories about her of any kind.

Thomas's death cert has her added on in the margin with a date six months later than the death cert.  It does not say she's dead.

Judith

DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Mary DWYER death
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 February 11 07:39 GMT (UK) »
This  for MICHAEL

Section I
Row 14
Headstone 4
In memory of/Michael DWYER/Born at Creenane CO Tipperary
Ireland/Died at Barfold 13th August 1884 Aged 82 years/May his
soul rest in peace Amen.


I will type up the headstones which mention the name ELLEN DWYER,.. They are long and perhaps if you look for yourself, you may see something I have missed.
 ;D

Section 1
row 7
Headstone 9

In loving memory of/my Husband/Matthew DWYER/Native of CO
Tipperary Ireland/Died 18th October 1867 Aged 39 yrs/And my
Son/Thomas DWYER/Died 10th November 1880 Aged 24 yrs/And my
Mother/Ellen BAGNELL/Native of CO Tipperary Ireland/Died 30th
October 1883 Aged 85 yrs/And her Son/Richard/Died 14th May
1881 Aged 38 yrs/Also/Ellen DWYER/Wife of the above/Died 14th
October 1908 Aged 73 yrs/And their Son/Matthew/Also Bridget
CASHEN/Died 2nd August 1890 Aged 27 yrs/may their souls rest
in peace Amen



Row 8
Headstone 8
Sacred/to/the memory of/John DWYER/Died 27th Feb 1905 Aged
76/Johanna DWYER/Died 21st March 1891 Aged 56/Patrick
DWYER/Died 1st Sept 1898 Aged 25/Ellen DWYER/Died 11.8.1913
Aged 36/William DWYER/Died 24.9.1948 Aged 82/Also/Johanna
DWYER/And/Ellen DELANEY/R.I.P.

Section K
Row 11
Headstone No, 1
Sacred/to the memory of/James DWYER/Born at Nodstown County
Tipperary/Ireland/Who Died Nover 19th 1876/Aged 76
years/Requiem Eternam Dona El Domine/Also his Wife/Ellen/Born
September 14th 1822/At Castlelake County Tipperary .
Ireland/Died August 13th 1910/Also/Patrick DWYER/Son of the
above/Who Died at Woodend North Jan 23rd 1914/James,DWYER/Who
Died March 26th 1917/William DWYER/Who Died October 7th
1923/R.I.P./Margaret DWYER/Died October 19th 1929/R.I.P.

Very long Sorry!!

Sue




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Re: Mary DWYER death
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 February 11 07:59 GMT (UK) »
Very long indeed - I am very grateful to you for bothering!!  These are all related but I haven't yet been able to unscramble them all and have only bothered with those in my direct line.

I do wish they had had a bit more imagination with names LOL.  NOt only do they use the same names over and over but the actual names used within the family are different again - eg Honorah, dau of Thomas and Mary who I only ever heard of as "Aunt Kate"  no wonder I couldn't find her for ages!

Thanks again!

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

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