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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 12 February 11 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Elasticated ends to the sleeves.
What uniform did Oswald Moseley's lot wear?

Yes, unusual elaticised wristbands ...

Moseley's lot wore black shirts but with no collar - kindof Russian looking. The women wore a black shirt and tie I think (watched the new Upstairs Downstairs last week  ;D)

I think Alice looks very young in that photo.

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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 February 11 14:27 GMT (UK) »
Here's another picture of Alice - I think she was even younger in this.

I'm having trouble finding much out about her husband.

He was John PAGE, and he was born in Deptford, London on 30 Oct 1899, and baptised in St. Nicholas, Deptford on 6 Dec 1899.

His father David PAGE, married to Mary WALL, appears to have been a Seaman, and I've had trouble locating any of them in the 1901 census.

When David PAGE married Mary WALL, the address given was 38 Shepherd's Buildings, Roan Street, Greenwich.

I think I've found David Page on the 1911 census, but he was on his own, working as a night watchman on the ship "Taurus", and I can't find the rest of the family.  I'm not requesting a lookup, but a census reference would be welcomed, so I can find it myself  :)
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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 12 February 11 14:40 GMT (UK) »
A couple of thoughts - I don't think this was an outfit for cycling, but it could have been for hiking. 

When I first saw this picture, I got the immediate impression that the outfits were made out of corduroy.   Corduroy is a very thick fabric, which results in bulky seams and hems.
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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 February 11 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Would you assume this was taken just prior to or after their marriage?

I did look at images of cycling clothing but this doesn't look like any I found.

Hiking is a possibility, but it still seems odd that they are both wearing exactly the same outfits - even if they belonged to a hiking club you would expect Alice to wear a woman's version of the outfit.


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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 February 11 15:05 GMT (UK) »
I'd think that she has not yet had any children which would make it (probably) before 1930.

FreeBMD gives
Marriages Sep 1929
HARBERS Winifred M Whittaker Greenwich 1d 2270
Martin Alice Page Greenwich 1d 2270
Page John Martin Greenwich 1d 2270
Whittaker Thomas A Harbers Greenwich 1d 2270

And these possible children
Births Dec qtr 1930
Page Douglas F (Martin) Woolwich 1d 1394

Births Dec qtr 1936
PAGE Anthony A W (Martin) Woolwich 1d 1278

The shadows suggest that they were on a south or east facing resort so Margate is unlikely.

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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 February 11 15:12 GMT (UK) »
I think this was taken prior to the marriage.  Unfortunately they didn't have any children, so the seaside picture could have been taken 6 weeks or 6 years after their marriage.

I think I've found the family in 1911 - RG14PN2638 RG78PN89 RD28 SD2 ED15 SN389

David Page is not on the census page, but he's the one who filled in the form.  Also, the number of years married and number of children born & still alive (which David mistakenly filled in on his census form) matches this one.  There's only one problem - there's no John Page !  ::)

And sorry Bryan - I forgot to say, Alice's maiden name was MARTIN. 

P.S. Does John Page's demeanour suggest that he may have been in the army ?
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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 12 February 11 15:13 GMT (UK) »
My mother and I both wore pedal-pushers which came to just below the knee when they came into fashion c1954.  The ones the lady is wearing are not pedal-pushers.
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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 12 February 11 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Elasticated ends to the sleeves. Seem to remember clothes like that in 50s / 60s.

His hair is rather long for the days of short back and sides. So he was Arty or was this in 60s. Compare his with the man behind with the small case. He is holding a cigarette but that's not unusual.
   
Their shirts/jackets look rather like what used to be called bomber jackets - zip front, elasticised wristbands - after the style of jackets air force pilots wore.
His hair is not really long Bryan - that bit sticking out the back is actually part of someone else's head.

The hairstyles of both women visible in the picture is definitely 30's, and she was born in 1905, so would be 45 to 55 in the 50's/60s.
Nick my mum and our next door neighbour both had hairstyles like the ladies in the picture, including Alice, up to late 1950s. I wouldn't call it a '30s style' at all.
Alice does look to be only in her 20s in the picture, though older than in the second one you posted.
She looks like a happy serene person!
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Re: Another challenge for eagle-eyed RC'ers
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 12 February 11 15:57 GMT (UK) »
Without knowing anything about the subjects in this photo, I would have dated it as in the 50's.  During the 30's men tended to wear hats and ties, even at the seaside.  The man behind the couple looks just like my dad did in 50's; open neck shirt, sports jacket .  Ladies also wore hats during the 30's, but not one of the other people in the photo is wearing a hat.  When I was a kid, we used to call that style of jacket "windjammers". 
My immediate thought when I saw the photo was that the couple were involved in Morris dancing, judging by the shoes (hers seem to have bows on the front and are his pointed?).
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