Mary Nolan/Jack Nolan/Jane Jewell

[realestatenovelist]

Looking for information on my great great grandmother Mary Kathleen Nolan.  She was born August 14 either 1875 or 1877 in Belfast.  Her parents were Jack Nolan and Jane Jewell.  She was eleven when she sailed to Canada on an unknown ship with an uncle, leaving behind her parents and six siblings (unknown names).  She was a member of the Church of England (at least that's what her obituary said- she would listen to radio broadcasts of the Church of England).

 I've done all the searching I can do and I've never been able to find this family.  I do know there were three Mary Catherines born around this time, but they were in County Carlow.  What I can see of these documents doesn't list the parents so I am unable to rule them in or out, and it's pretty expensive to order documents if I'm unsure they are the correct ones. 

I was beginning to wonder if she was born in another county, but every document I have lists Belfast as her birth place.  It is on her marriage and death certificates.  On two separate census records she lists "Northern Ireland" as her place of birth. 

I have been told before that I am out of luck with the limited information I have but I am having a hard time just giving up. 


Thanks.

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   The IGI gives the birth as 14 Aug 1877 in Belfast and her death as 1943. This is a submitted record so it will have to be verified.

Regards

[anniehadden]

Dear Realestatenovelist,

You can search the LDS FamilySearch site for free, both for the <1877> birth of Mary (Kathleen/Catherine? you wrote both names) Nolan and the marriage of her parents Jack (whose name was probably JOHN) and Jane Jewell. Keep in mind that Jane's full name might have been Mary Jane or Eliza Jane or a name like that, and she could be indexed as Mary/Eliza/etc.

Check also the IFHF databases, which aren't expensive if you find a birth or marriage of interest and want to order it. You can search for John and Jane's marriage (before 1877) and any Nolan births in Co. Antrim to a father named Jack/John Nolan and a mother named Jane. Or search for Mary's circa 1877 birth in all Ireland, and her siblings' births within about 10 years of that date. In fact, 3 "hits" come up when you run a search for Noland children's births between 1870-1880 to parents named John & Jane in "all counties". The indexes are FREE and you only pay to view a full record if you want all the details.

Emerald Ancestors is another site with both civil registrations and church records, though not as many as IFHF. I don't see a birth for Mary Nolan or marriage for Jane Jewell on any of the EA lists (or variant spellings) but there are various "John Nolan" men (Noland/Nolen/etc.).

Also search the 1901 census for Nolans and Jewells, to see which were in Belfast and in that area in general.

Search death records of John/Jack and Jane Nolan(d) in the Belfast area after 1877.

Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
John Nolan   
birth: 1844   
death: Apr-Jun 1906 Belfast

Coordinating this with the 1901 census, there's a John Nolan living in Belfast. He's age 60, widowed, with several adult children. All are Roman Catholic. This is probably the man who died in 1906.

Although your gr-gr-grandmother was said to be Church of England, I wouldn't discount other religions back home in Ireland. A bride or groom sometimes changed their religious denomination when marrying.

I hope this helps,
Annie

[aghadowey]

Realestatenovelist hasn't been online since starting this thread. I.G.I. = International Gnealogical Index which is part of LDS site www.familysearch.org.

[realestatenovelist]

Thanks for the replies.  I will try what was suggested.  To be honest it didn't occur to me that they could be Catholic- there was quite an anti-Catholic sentiment in that branch of my family, not sure why.

The information from the LDS site, I believe would have been provided by one of my family members or who has the same information I do.  I have a ton of information and can track nearly every move of Mary Nolan from when she was married in Vermont at 18- but not a trace of her living in Canada from age 11, or immigration, or her life in Ireland. 

Thanks again, I will keep at it.   

[anniehadden]

Paula,

Looking at  your ancestors' information posted in other messages, I see that we both have Armstrongs from Ireland. Your Armstrongs who emigrated from Ireland to Vermont are included in "The Berkshire, Vermont, Chaffees, and Their Descendants, 1801-1911" by Almer Judson Elliot (Richford, Vermont: Gilpin printing company, 1911) -- viewable on Google Books.

I'll reply to one of your other messages on an appropriate topic board for that.

Regards,
Annie

[aghadowey]

Can't see any mention of the family being Catholic meantioned here. 'Other religions' (besides Church of Ireland) could also include denominations such as Presbyterian, Methodist, etc.

[anniehadden]

Another research thread -- if Mary Kathleen Nolan's mother "Jane Jewell" was from ENGLAND, as available records indicate, then Jack (John) Nolan may have married his wife there. Many Irish went to work in England and Scotland either seasonally or for several years at a time to make extra money.

I'd suggest checking English marriage registrations c. 1855-1875 for Jane Jewell and Jack/John Nolan, and also looking for Jane in English censuses before 1875. She would have been born no earlier than about 1830 to be having a daughter in 1875-1877, and could have been born up to about 1855 -- since ypu don't know if Mary Kathleen was a younger child or older child among siblings. Jane Jewell Nolan could have been in her teens or 20s when she had Mary Kathleen, or in her late 40s and M.K. was a "last" child.

Just more threads to follow! Hope this helps.

Annie

[aghadowey]

FreeBMD website has very good coverage for ENglish and Welsh marriages and also worth checking LDS site www.familysearch.org.