Census lookup Alfred and Frances Hartley

[mama]

Could someone kindly find Alfred and Frances Hartley on 1860/70 Census.  They were married in Calverley, nr.Bradford in 1856.  If I have the correct Frances (nee Maude) she was a weaver in Clayton w.Yorkshire prior to marriage.
Thankyou
Mama

[rosie99]

Hi

Could this be them in 1881?  If so they were in America for the birth of their first child before the 1861 census

Alfred HARTLEY   age  50   born England   Stone Cutter   
 Frances HARTLEY   Wife   age  43   bn ENG   Keep'G House     
 Fanny HARTLEY   Daughter age  21   born ME     
 Alfred HARTLEY   Son  age   16   born ME     
 Lilly HARTLEY   Daughter age  10   born MA       

Census Place Manchester, Chesterfield, Virginia

Rosie
 

[mama]

Unfortunately it seems a co-incidence with people the same name.  FRances Maud/Maude was possibly born about 1809 (I don't know the exact date) which would make the age difference incorrect.  She gave birth to a daughter Mary Ann Maude (single mother) about 1829 who was married in 1850 in Elland Church.
The marriage I found of Frances Maud and Alfred Hartley was 1856.  The ages don't seem to be right
I will do some more work on it tomorrow and see what else I can come up with.
Thanks for your information.
Marg.

[KGarrad]

Sorry! Getting confused here.

Do you have any dates for Alfed and Frances, apart from their wedding in 1856?
If you suspect that Frances was born in 1809, then she would have been 47 at marriage?
Was she a widow?

Of course, all these answers would be on the marriage certificate!
Ages, Fathers names & occupations, addresses, and witnesses. All helpful stuff.

[rosie99]

Hi

The 1856 marriage is on the IGI  http://www.familysearch.org/

Frances Maud  age 21 father James Maud
Alfred Hartley  age 25  (no fathers name given)
13th January 1856   Calverley, Yorkshire

This does not tie in with a 1809 birth 
Is this what you mean the ages don't seem right.

Rosie
 

[mama]

Thanks for your reply.  I am sure that I have the wrong couple as Frances Maud I am looking for gave birth to a daughter about 1829.  Back to the drawing board.
Marg.

[KGarrad]

Perhaps you should tell us exactly what you DO know, from concrete evidence, and then let us help you find the missing pieces.

Have you any birth or marriage certificates?
Any confirmed dates?

[avm228]

She gave birth to a daughter Mary Ann Maude (single mother) about 1829 who was married in 1850 in Elland Church.

Perhaps this baptism (from IGI, extracted)?

MARY ANN MAUD

Birth: 14 AUG 1828   

Christening:  28 JUL 1829   
Ebenezer Primitive Methodist, Halifax
 
Daughter of FRANCES MAUD
 
www.familysearch.org

[mama]

Thanks for your reply.  What you have sent regarding her birth and baptism  is practically all I know.
Some extra info on Mary Anns baptism record from the register :
Baptised - 28th July 1829, Mary Ann - a female, Born - in the Parish of Bradford 14th August 1828,  Mother - Frances Maud, Abode - Clayton, Occupation - Weaver, Her X mark, baptised by Josiah Partington  This information was sent to me previouslys yet I don't have her birth certificate
I am trying to find the registration number of Mary Ann Maud's birth so that I may apply for a birth certificate. As it is prior to BMD could you tell me where I can look for the registration number?  Mary Ann Maud was married in 1850 in Elland to William Shaw.  On her marriage certificate the signature for her father was Joseph Drake.
I have information on Mary and Ann, her husband and children, my aim now is to find out more about Frances Maud and her parents.
Marg.
Marg.