Who was my grandad in Diss

[Dissman]

It may be a hopeless search but I would dearly like to know the identity of my paternal grandfather. My paternal grandmother Olive, Tryphena, Blanche Easto (1886 – 1975), daughter of Alfred Easto, gave birth to two illegitimate children. The first was Rupert, Augustus, Easto (1904 – 1904). The second was my father Rupert, Walker, Easto (1907 – 1995). The fact that the two boys had the same first name Rupert might, just might, have some significance. I have searched, unsuccessfully for any “Ruperts” living in the Diss area at an appropriate time.

Possibly someone out there has some knowledge, gained from gossip or rumour,  which might lead to the discovery of my grandfather’s identity. So here’s hoping.


Dissman

[Mort29]

any significance in the Walker forename ?

[Dissman]

Mort29

I've already tried Walker and Augustus - nothing doing.

Thanks for your interest.

Dissman

[alimag]

Hi Dissman there is a marriage for olive in 1911 at depwade to either dennis g bond  or frederick garrood. you may allready have this  , but two more names to you might like to check out.


regards alan

[lizdb]

Possibly someone out there has some knowledge, gained from gossip or rumour, 

She may have just liked the name Rupert!

Sadly, in my experience, 'gossip' or 'rumour' very seldom results in 'knowledge'.

Unless Olive left any record of the father of her children, either on their birth certs, christening record, family bible, maintenence agreement etc, you will never know who he/ they was/were.
Even if you did find that local 'gossip' was that their dad was XYZ (and I doubt that there will be any record now of local gossip from 100 years ago) it will only be just that, gossip. If it is inaccurate, it may not be right to perpetuate it by claiming XYZ as the father in your records, which may then be  passed on to future generations and evolve into 'fact' rather than speculation.

Sorry, dont mean to put a dampner on your research.
 But in my humble opinion, (which you dont have to take any notice of if you dont want) unless there is evidence to support a name as a father of an illegitiamate child, it is best just left as 'unknown'.  Guessing has no part in Family History Research.

[danuslave]

Guessing has no part in Family History Research.
   

Actually it has quite a big part    

But only as a starting point, to be backed up by evidence.

Sometimes it's guesswork and lateral thinking that break down walls

Linda

..seriously lizdb, I take your point!

[lizdb]

Guessing has no part in Family History Research.
   

Actually it has quite a big part    

You are quite right - yes!  I do agree.

Perhaps I should re word my comment -

Guessing can be a jolly good part of the Research process, but need to be followed up with evidence to confirm them or rule them out, as guesses can never end up as the end product, unless clearly defined that they are speculation only.

Well, you know what I mean!

[t mo]

according to 1911 cen rupert is living with his grandparents alfred & fanny in chapel st diss his middle name is walter on that and no sign of olive in the family and looking at the cen for olive her self only 3 olive east,s no easto,s  show up and none of them are born in norfolk ! so can anyone else shed light on this .
trevor

[lizdb]

She could be a) mistranscribed, b) married by then c) living with someone and using their surname d) using a different name , first or surname e) have given an incorrect place of birth etc etc etc!