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McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« on: Saturday 05 February 11 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Griffith's Valuation (the AskAboutIreland version) lists 4 McGrath occupiers in the townland of Lisnagade, Aghaderg Parish, Co. Down: Thomas, James, Hugh, and Peter.

The 1911 census indicates our GGM was born Elizabeth McGrath in Lisnagade in 1833. It seems probable she was related somehow to one or more of these McGrath families. We haven't found a birth cert yet, though, so are unsure which (if any).

(Elizabeth married Peter O'Kane around 1855, and is listed as Elizabeth O'Kane, living in Antrim, in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.)

Any information on the McGrath's of Lisnagade would be appreciated.
Ireland:
Down & Antrim: Crilly, Patterson, O'Kane, McGrath
Westmeath & Offaly (Fearboy): Stones & Maguire
Waterford: Anna Cleary, born about 1862, emigrated to US before 1880.
England:
Liverpool: Fogarty & Patterson, 1906.

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Re: McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 February 11 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Found this record but you might find more McGraths by searching PRONI website www.proni.gov.uk
"McGrath Thomas of Lisnagade county Down farmer died 23 February 1937 Administration Belfast 16 July to Bernard McGrath farmer. Effects £258."
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 February 11 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Aghadowey,

Thanks for the pointer to PRONI. I had never searched it before. I found a couple of 19th century lease records there for Lisnagade, but they didn't mention the McGraths.

Mike
Ireland:
Down & Antrim: Crilly, Patterson, O'Kane, McGrath
Westmeath & Offaly (Fearboy): Stones & Maguire
Waterford: Anna Cleary, born about 1862, emigrated to US before 1880.
England:
Liverpool: Fogarty & Patterson, 1906.

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Re: McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike,

Not too much to add, sorry:

Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1838
1828 - Bernard McGrath at Lisnagade
1828 - James McGrath at Lisnagade
1828 - John McGrath at Lisnagade

The following link has listings of a couple of McGrath families from Lisnagade, that are worth a look if you have not already done so.

Link: https://www.familysearch.org/

Cheers,

Janet.


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Re: McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Janet,

Thanks. I'd heard about the Tithe Applotment Books but never used them before. Maybe I'll compare them to what's in Griffith's.

(Way off topic: I wish they had a subscription at RootsIreland, instead of a per-record fee. Three McGrath marriage records, and three birth/baptism records per family, is a dozen records. At 5 Euros apiece that's 60 Euros or $82 US. A year's subscription to the Ancestry US collection, with full access to all records, is about US $160. What I'm doing currently at RootsIreland is using the free indexing to locate records, and noting their location, but not buying any. I'm sure I'm not the only one doing that!)

Mike

Ireland:
Down & Antrim: Crilly, Patterson, O'Kane, McGrath
Westmeath & Offaly (Fearboy): Stones & Maguire
Waterford: Anna Cleary, born about 1862, emigrated to US before 1880.
England:
Liverpool: Fogarty & Patterson, 1906.

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Re: McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 February 11 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike,
We may have a common tie with the McGrath family of Lisnagade.
My Great Grandmother was Anne McGrath who married James Lavery in Lisnagade Roman Catholic chapel around 1866. To date I have done no research on my McGrath line, but would like to know if you have. I live 4 miles from Lisnagade and know many McGrath`s in the area.
Hope to hear from you soon.

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Re: McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 February 11 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kernon,

Nice to hear from you.

My primary sources are the 1901 and 1911 censuses. In 1911 Elizabeth McGrath O'Kane is listed at 7 King's St. in St. Anne's Ward in Co. Antrim. She's 79. The census says she was born in "Lisnagat" which apparently should be "Lisnagade." Her granddaughter Grace Patterson lives with her. Grace Patterson is my grandmother's sister.

In 1901 Elizabeth is listed as 68, living at 20 Divis St. in Smithfield, Co. Antrim. Her husband Peter O'Kane is 71.

I don't have a document showing that Elizabeth's maiden name was "McGrath." I was told that by a family member and believe it's correct. I also have no birth/baptismal record for her. So I don't know her parents' names. I imagine she had siblings but I don't know their names either.

She's listed in both censuses as Roman Catholic. Would you happen to know in which parish she was likely to have been baptized? That would help narrow down the search of church records at RootsIreland.

Thanks for any help.
Ireland:
Down & Antrim: Crilly, Patterson, O'Kane, McGrath
Westmeath & Offaly (Fearboy): Stones & Maguire
Waterford: Anna Cleary, born about 1862, emigrated to US before 1880.
England:
Liverpool: Fogarty & Patterson, 1906.

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Re: McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 February 11 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Kernon,

I see you mentioned Lisnagade Roman Catholic chapel in 1866. That's not on the list at RootsIreland. I also searched for a Co. Down marriage record for James Lavery and Ann McGrath in 1861 - 1871, and didn't find one. --  Perhaps their records didn't survive, or haven't been computerized. Maybe you could find out?
Ireland:
Down & Antrim: Crilly, Patterson, O'Kane, McGrath
Westmeath & Offaly (Fearboy): Stones & Maguire
Waterford: Anna Cleary, born about 1862, emigrated to US before 1880.
England:
Liverpool: Fogarty & Patterson, 1906.

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Re: McGrath families in Lisnagade in Griffith's Valuation
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 February 11 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Kernon,

My cousin just sent me a church marriage record for Elizabeth McGrath & Peter  Kane. They were married 17 Mar 1855 in St. Patrick's RC Church, Belfast. No info on their parents. The witnesses were Willilam Gilpin and Ann Loughran, but I've no reason to think they had a Lisnagade county Down connection.
Ireland:
Down & Antrim: Crilly, Patterson, O'Kane, McGrath
Westmeath & Offaly (Fearboy): Stones & Maguire
Waterford: Anna Cleary, born about 1862, emigrated to US before 1880.
England:
Liverpool: Fogarty & Patterson, 1906.