Roberts Family Narberth area

[porkpie]

Oriel,
       Thanks for your reply. The answer is no to both of your comments but I am planning a trip to Haverfordwest soon and Wills and Property ownership are on my list. Dey is an off-shoot of my family tree and I have only gone back to the marriage of James Dey and Rebecca Ollin at Begelly in 1776 so far. I will take a look at your references as I have not looked at the parishes you mentioned.
                      Thanks
                           Roger

[Damuan187]

hi there, lot roberts was my 2nd greatfather i have a few bit info on him and some faimly would like to exchange information, if give your detail or number/address i write to you or call you about lot roberts.

I hope to hear form you soon damian

[Orielbenfro]

planning a trip to Haverfordwest soon and Wills and Property ownership are on my list.

Roger
Save some time consult wills prior to your visit for free at ;
http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en

Not sure what you mean by "Property Ownership", because there certainly are no records as such at the Rec Off. The nearest you will get is L.T.A.'s circa 1781 to 1833, these only show Occupier/lessor name  and Owner name, with location name.

You could try Kelly's or something similiar for the 1830's onwards excluding the Universal Commerical of 1797.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a suruname

[porkpie]

Oriol,
       Thanks for info. I've been planning to look at the NLW wills for a while and your note has encouraged me to do that. When I said property records, I was looking to find any info from parish records/Vestry minutes relating to the collection of church rent/tythes. Also to look at any old maps which would give a trail to possible tenants/reference documents.
                              Roger

[Damuan187]

hi there Roger and oriol

Do have any contact deatail like a emial as i have a few bit of info on lot robert if you like to see them. maybe a share of infrormation will be get benefit to both of us.

Lot robert is youngest daughther was my great grand monther. and have a bit info on her so if like swap info please get in touch

damian

[Orielbenfro]

any info from parish records/Vestry minutes relating to the collection of church rent/tythes.................old maps........

P.R.s for Reynalton start circa 1786, Jefferston circa 1731. Vestry Minutes are intermittent to say the least and may be tied up in the P.R.'s. Old Maps start with the Military Map of 1818 but has very limited info and errors that I have discovered to my cost. It has no houses but some farmsteads etc and no family names. Tythe Map 1837-1841, in the main only Assessements are held at the Rec Off, although there are some limited maps which accompany Assessements. The Assessements only shown occupier and Owner, no family. Qtr Sessions may be a better source. There are some good Estate papers, if your ancestor worked for one of the big names in the Cty.
I would recommend an email to the Rec Off asking for copies of their free search guide leaflets on the subjects of your interest, this would be an excellent way to prepare for a visit. Also I can recommend the book "Village Records" by J. West, although it deals with an English Village the documents its describes will also appertain to Wales.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname

[jonm]

I have done quite a bit of research on the estate and tithe records for Reynolton and Begelly so can pass comment on what is/is not available.

All the land in the parish of Reynolton by early 19th century was owned by the Harcourt Powell estate. The records for for the Pembrokeshire part of the estate are held at Haverfordwest. That's the good news. Bad news is little survives from the mid-19th century. There are some maps - fantastic in fact - albeit dating from the 1770s. But all is not lost. A selection of letters from the estate's agent (Hugh Wilson) to the landlords survive from the 1820s (ref D/POW/H/169-196) reporting on estate matters. They do not mention William Roberts himself BUT they do mention his 2 immediate predecessors (Morris Ormond and John Francis) and the problems they had. These are very instructive and will give you some idea of the impoverished nature of the local farms at the time Roberts signed his lease c. 1829.

Also keep your eyes open for some good material on the lease agreements for the Dey family at Carn and Rees family at Catershill (doc # 188).

If memory serves me right, the Pembrokeshire RO also has both the Reynolton tithe map and award and you'll find Roberts mentioned.

He has always intrigued me: he started off a farmer of a good sized (for Pembrokeshire anyway) farm, was the guardian of the Poor for the parish in the late 1830s so in a position of trust and responsibility but ended up an ag lab in the 1871 census. Maybe he retired and just kept his hand in labouring or maybe something untoward happened. If you find out I'd be interested to know.

Jon

PS. Have a look at the graveyard at Molleston Baptist Church as you'll find a useful gravestone there. The church is 3 miles or so to the north of Reynolton. Alternatively if you want the details just shout.

[Orielbenfro]

the Dey ancestors of Mary who farmed at Catershill, Begelly. The earliest is a James Dey who was born ~1750.

Roger,
I was out on the bike today and landed up at Llanwnda to do some research on the Harris family for someone, anyway I came across a very early and rather interesting Dey headstone in Llanwnda churchyard and remembered your interest, I know its out of your interested area, but I took a jpeg just in case you want it. If you are interested drop me a PM with an email address and I can pass it on, if not interested please let me know and I can delete.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname

[Damuan187]

hi there.

iam looking for information of my 3th great grandfather william robets i know he died in Narbeth in September 1871 and his wife Mary Roberts in December 1888 i like to find where he could be burried and his wife any help will be greatful

many thanks damian

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