Hi, the Thomas Goodman on familysearch that Gill refers to has father's name Richard. Although we have a Robert as a child of Thomas there doesn't appear to have been a Richard. It would seem strange not to name at least one child Richard. Also with the place of birth being different from the census details about Thomas. Still, you never know everything is worth looking at as we are so stuck. I am trying to connect any families of Goodman people at present as it may eliminate some at the very least. I am going to try and be a bit more organized re my points of reference, in keeping with Ray's high standards. Only joking Ray and I do agree showing the source of information is the way forward.
Firstly, from my research previously I found a George born Jun quarter 1848, Wokingham, vol 6, 291, Free BMD.You may remember I purchased that cert thinking it was my George Goodman. George was actually born on 20th of May, Wargrave. Mother Elizabeth Withers from Whistley, father James Goodman. I visited Wargrave etc but Whistley which I believe is Whistley Green doesn't now exist. I later found a death for James Goodman who died March quarter 1848, vol 6, 260, Free BMD.
I then found a will for James Goodman, Feb 24th 1848 National Archives, Reference Prob11/2069/171. The heading was will of James Goodman, Gentleman of Wargrave, Berkshire Of course I immediately thought this is the father of the George born 1848. I guessed the mother gave birth to the baby following the father's death. However, looking at the birth cert of George it doesn't say father deceased. It may not have been a requirement, I suppose.
This is the bit where I get vague again, I thought for some reason that this James was connected to the Water Eaton Goodmans, who in turn may be connected to the Flaunden Goodman people. I recall ?James Goodman leaving some books to his two year old nephew, ? Flaunden. Previously National Archives gave a bit more heading detail with the likely info to be found in the will. Well that's the vague bit over with for now.
Found a George in the 1851 census, HO 1071723, it has 30 at the top of the page and 50 on the right hand side. George aged 3 years born Water Eaton Bucks, was in Newport Pagnall as a visitor to Thomas Emerton and family.
Then in the 1861 census RG 8 871 103 pg 27. There is a George Goodman age 13 years son of Thomas Goodman Newport Pagnall, (Fenny Stratford subdistrict). This George appears to have been born in Bletchley, Bucks.
Then in 1871 census RG 10 1417, 116 pg 25,26. There is a George Goodman aged 23 years born 1848, Water Eaton, he was a grandson of Elizabeth Emerton. Therefore I would say that there is a definite connection with Water Eaton Goodman and Newport Pagnall (Emerton) Goodman. I expect there will be a marriage for Emerton and Goodman somewhere. There are lots of Goodman folk living next door to each other in the Fenny Stratford subdistrict especially in the 1851 census. Unable to see a connection with Thomas and Zilpah although it wouldn't surprise me if there was a connection with Henry Goodman, the Baker. Maddie's uncle's line. I feel looking in more details at the National Archive list of wills should connect families further. I tried looking at ancestry wills in the library today but was unable to locate James from Wargrave. Well folks, the search goes on and on...
Caz, re the ells, we mentioned that chap on rootschat before and apparently he is one of Maddie's uncle's line.
