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« Reply #243 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 13:14 BST (UK) »
Hi

No Ray, as far as I know this Gibbs wasn't a blacksmith. :)

Jackie, my Sarah Beckley was born in Chesham but it's always possible they could be the same family connected further back. There are loads of Gristwood's in Ricky & there is a possibility that the Elizabeth Winfield was formally Elizabeth Gristwood, can't find any proof though.

Ricky had always been populated by the same families for years, I can remember my Mum & Dad often mentioning names back in the 50's that I keep coming across in my research. :D

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« Reply #244 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 13:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Maddie

Sorry about my wrong info earlier on regarding elizabeth winfield, i have just looked back and seen that she was a rivett. i am not well today and not thinking straight.

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jackie

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« Reply #245 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 13:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Jackie

Hope you feel better soon. You're right though, we did find a connection some where way back for the Winfield & Gristwood's, can't just remember what though without going back through all the posts. ;D

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« Reply #246 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 13:45 BST (UK) »
Maddie yes thats right she is the daughter also named Ellen ... :)

Gristwoods are huge ...i looked back on my Gristwoods other week and noticed that our Louisa Gristwood who married our James junior goodman ...Both her parents were born Gristwoods from 2 diff gristwood families ... ... so i know im connected to 2 of them now lol ....

Jackie ,thats what i said a long time ago about us all being related one way or another lol ...i await the day when i stumble across something that tells me im related to maddies lot lol


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« Reply #247 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 18:44 BST (UK) »
Hi, what a whirl of info that was. I did see another Goodman, occupation blacksmith, on one of the censuses but that was in another county. I wish I could remember where I saw this. It may not mean anything although occupations did tend to run in families. However, it was a different first name, peter or something similar, therefore it didn't seem to belong to Rickmansworth James's own children. If my cousin can get info re date of birth for Mary Goodman and any other personal info, that means such info would also be available for Ellen. I went to Watford library today and asked about burial registers on microfilm. Apparently Rickmansworth library have now sent their microfilms to Watford. Unfortunately the burials for Rickmansworth only go up to 1885. I then looked at Watford, as I am not sure under which parish Catherine would be buried, having died in Watford. On their microfilm under the year 1894 there is very few names and most are just lists of surnames with no other info. Lots of blank pages etc., not a very complete list at all. I rang HALS and the person I spoke with mentioned that the Rickmansworth burial register for that period is on microfilm, she seemed a bit unsure about the flood info re the actual registers. I have tried ordering the info on line hoping that the burial info is under Rickmansworth registers. Bearing in mind also that I didn't even have exact burial date or place, therefore fingers crossed.

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« Reply #248 on: Friday 19 October 12 15:25 BST (UK) »
While waiting for HALS to get back to me I am once again researching "all things Goodman".

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« Reply #249 on: Friday 19 October 12 15:42 BST (UK) »
This letter, if it posted OK, is a sample by John Wilson Manuscripts Limited. The writing at the side of this sample is as follows." HELPS, Sir Arthur (1813-1865). Privy Councillor.
Autograph Letter signed to G J Goodman, 2 pages 8vo, Council Office, 4th May 1874 (embossed Council Office stamp excised with the loss of a few words). Making an appointment to see Goodman, but warning that he has little time for questions not connected to his work." It states that this image is the first page only. The G J initial if it is George Joseph could relate to my Ggrandfather. However, I would imagine it is more likely to be Godfrey Goodman as I am sure Helps wouldn't give people like my George the time of day. Incidentally, and totally unrelated, I found Godfrey Goodman of Bishops Stortford married Francis Adelaide Marriott of bath on 30th of June 1861. Apparently it was in the Gentleman's magazine. I suspect he was the Godfrey who was at one time invited to be the Chaplain at Watford Workhouse.

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« Reply #250 on: Monday 22 October 12 11:09 BST (UK) »
Hi all, horror oh horror, it appears that Ray's reservations about Catherine may be right. HALS so far are not able to find her. They have found a Priscella and other Goodman persons but no Catherine so far. I guess the born in Ireland, the name Catherine, instead of Mary Katherine, was significant after all. However, until and if I find where they put this Catherine I will never be 100% sure. Also not sure if the fact that she had meningitis, died under the care of the school and was the second person to die within two days delayed the burial at all. I couldn't give HALS AN exact burial date whereas with my other two burials I did have that exact info and therefore they were able to locate the burial info no problem. Did they do post postmortem's for suspicious deaths and would hers be considered a suspicious death?.

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« Reply #251 on: Monday 22 October 12 22:36 BST (UK) »
Hi

Sorry, are you saying that HALS can't find Catherine's burial details. ??

We know she died so she must be buried somewhere. ???

I would have thought that as she died in Watford she would be buried in Vicarage Road cemetery but I might be totally wrong. I don't think the Roman Catholic church in Watford was established at the time of her death. Unless of course the R/C School used a specific cemetery. :-\ Do you have a record of all the Goodman burials in Chorleywood Road to be able to eliminate that one.??

I can't see meningitis being treated as suspicious, poor little soul would probably have been ill for a while before dying.

Did you have any luck with the R/C church in Harrow at all. ??

Maddie
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