George GOODMAN

[Maddie]

Hi

The earliest of my Uncles Goodman's in Ricky is Henry William born 1835 in Chesham Bois Bucks but the William you found in the newspaper could be Thomas & Zylpha's son born 1804 in Ricky. Was the article interesting..

Maddie

[1783caz]

they wernt mine my william wouldve been to young ... i shall take more note of names etc when i look through again ..was just passing some time seeing what interesting stuff to read lol

[bgoodman]

Hi, I have just received an e-mail back re Fr Hardy from the Westminster Archives. I wondered if he had kept any records re his "catholic administrations" in Rickmansworth. Unfortunately the only records that they had was a biography of Fr Hardy. That was of course a disappointment as I am now thinking where to next. I haven't heard anything back from Rickmansworth Historical Society yet, re burial info (transcriptions) for 1894 Catherine. I will have to contact HALS again as they suggested that I tried that route as their records were unavailable at the time, due to flooding. It depends on whether Mary Katherine (Catherine) would have been considered under Rickmansworth Parish or changed to Watford Parish, having moved to Watford. Probably moved following the death of her father in 1888 as I would imagine the family would have lost the right to stay at Bury Farm Cottage.

[bgoodman]

Hi, while browsing I noticed that there were some Goodman marriages and banns at Ware St Mary, Hertfordshire. When I looked up the info about that church in particular it appeared to have some catholic connection. There was Esther Goodman of Ware marriage to George Spooner of Ware 1849. There was also Mary Ann Goodman of Ware who married William James Templeman of Hertford 1855. Joanna Goodman Charvill of Ware who married Charles Clark 1863. I e-mailed the church re any connection to my ancestors baptisms etc and received a reply today. Basically there are no such records stored by the church although the lady mentioned contacting HALS. Aw well worth a try I guess.

[Maddie]

Hi

I wouldn't have thought that your George & Mary would have gone to Ware to get their children baptised. I've been having another look & can't find them any where, through my own research I'm pretty sure that the IGI has an extremely good coveridge of the Ricky/Watford area but thinking about it, if they were baptised as Catholics perhaps they could have gone North London way. It would have been quite feasible to have traveled up Batcher Hill towards Hendon.

I wonder if it would be worth trying Westminster Archives as I believe they may hold some Catholic records. Although from what I can gather reading on the net, the Catholic churches still hold their own records.

Maddie

[[Ray]]

Hi

Hendon via batchworth Hill? via Watford, Edgware.
Aren't Harefield, Uxbridge, Ruislip . . . . . canal route more obvious?

There'a a handful of Goddman families around Heronsgate from various place.

R

[Maddie]

Hi Ray

I did put Hendon, didn't I. A senior moment & it was late, I actually meant Hatch End.

Not necessarily by canal, it was the main road, the toll gate was at the top of Batcher Hill.

I  just thought that could be where R/C churches might have been in the area. If there were any, that is.

Maddie

[bgoodman]

Thank you both for your comments. I feel as though I have come to the end of the road with Westminster Archives at present. I have sent many e-mails and I have hazard guesses re areas where my Goodman ancestors may have baptized their children etc. Of course without any information at all it has proved impossible for the Archivist to help although he did try initially. I will try looking up some of those towns that you have suggested re where R/C churches may have been from 1879 onwards as that was the birth of George Goodman's first born.

[bgoodman]

The priest at Westminster e-mailed me info re Hardy and being desperate I just latched on to Ware etc.
Hardy, Henry                                                                                               1840-1918

Born: August 1840

Educated: Oxford

Anglican ministry: in Nottingham and Vauxhall

Received into the Church: 1876

Seminary: St Edmund’s, Ware as a ‘parlour boarder’ (1876-78)

Ordained: 25 July 1878

Appointments: Fr Hardy specialised in founding parishes and, as soon as a mission was established, he would move to another pioneer area. At ordination he asked Manning to be sent to the obscurest part of the diocese – he thus began at the temporary chapel, Harrow-on-the Hill (1878-91), during which time he bought the site for the church at Roxborough Park and opened a small church at Rickmansworth; he then settled at Rickmansworth (1891-), where he built the church and began saying Mass in a room at Boxmoor; then he transferred to Boxmoor (), where he built the church and founded the ‘villeggiatura’ house there for the Sisters of the Assumption, Kensington. He continued to serve Rickmansworth until it was handed over to Assumptionists, driving there in a pony-chaise. Next he served Berkhamstead, which he had started from Boxmoor, living in a tiny cottage next to the Boxmoor Convent. His final foundation was Tring, where he built a church and house.

Died: 23 January 1918, Tring. His final Mass was said there on the last Sunday of January 1918, where he had to be supported by two soldiers. He was then taken to his kitchen, where he lay for a few days and received the Last Rites from Fr Hacket of Berkhamstead. He was buried in Bedford.

Notes: Tablet obit., 2 February 1918, pp163-64. ‘Thus, single-handedly and depending mainly upon his own resources, most carefully husbanded, and by living in unusual simplicity and abnegation, he exercised an apostolate in western Hertfordshire in which he has diffused the beauty of the Catholic faith’