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« Reply #207 on: Saturday 29 September 12 19:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your replies. I expect the corrugated chapel in the high street was before all this re the involvement with the brewery land. It probably wasn't very significant in itself, especially as Ray mentioned that these worship places were common at one time. I just wondered if the space where it was could be seen as an obvious landmark now as Rickmansworth high street doesn't appear to have altered much over the years. Hopefully it will remain as quaint as it is now. What with your maps and books 1783caz I can see that you are still as keen as ever, keep up the good work as I strongly believe James the blacksmith's memory should live on.

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« Reply #208 on: Sunday 30 September 12 14:11 BST (UK) »
james the blacksmith should deffo live on ....i agree,,, Thing that gets me about him i havent seen many blacksmiths in ricky on the census ...only him ?
but anyhow im sure theres a book in the library on churches in ricky i tink i may of seen this iron chapel in there ...i will see if i can find it when i go in this week :)

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« Reply #209 on: Wednesday 03 October 12 09:25 BST (UK) »
Away at present but thank u for that

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« Reply #210 on: Monday 08 October 12 15:44 BST (UK) »
Hi all, I have written again to the archives at Westminster re whether Father Hardy, who it seems performed the burial ceremony on George Goodman 1888, had any records kept as he appeared to be a secular priest. I gather that meant they had no fixed place/parish. Apparently he acted as rector until 1904 at Rickmansworth parish, having firstly built the corrugated iron chapel in the high street. I was hoping that if there may have been some god parents mentioned re George senior's family. On the other hand I wondered also whether Mary Goodman (nee McCarthy) had the children baptized in Cashel where her mother lived. Thinking that the family would not have had the cash to come over for the occasion. Especially as it appears from the rate book records that Mary was paying for her mother to live in William street Cashel. It probably was convenient for Mary, working in England as the mother appeared to care for at least one of the children. The one who died interned in the rook of Cashel 1888. My cousin looked into any baptisms at Cashel in the past, so my brother informs me, but to no avail. Not sure if she also looked at nearby places, may be worth another look. Although my real interest lies with the elusive George Goodman re his birth place, his past prior to 1871 and his Rickmansworth family. However, Mary does seem to be somewhat of a character also. Having seen the rule book for midwives, she must have been made of tough stuff and must have been quite thrifty too. To have embarked on such a training having lost so many of her family members and presumably leaving young George in a boys home in England. Also my grandfather Hubert, if she did initially take him with her to Ireland, he would have been quite young. Sad though if she used some of that strength of character to persuade George (senior) to take on her religion at marriage as it may have alienated him from his supposedly Rickmansworth family. Which in turn would make it even more difficult for me to find out who they were.


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« Reply #211 on: Monday 08 October 12 19:32 BST (UK) »
Ellen Goodman is she a relative of anyone?

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« Reply #212 on: Monday 08 October 12 20:01 BST (UK) »
Hi

I believe the Ellen Goodman is part of my Uncles tree, I have one born 1805 & as her address is Talbot Road, the same as other Goodman's in this family, it's looking pretty likely. Unfortunately I haven't researched all of the Goodman's, only my Uncles direct line.

Still pointing to the fact that there were only the 2 Goodman families in Ricky....... ;)

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« Reply #213 on: Monday 08 October 12 20:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply Maddie. I am pleased that there probably is a connection I thought there may be to either you or 1783Caz. It was ten shillings to actually enrol, according to the published rules book 1903, under the Midwife act of 1902. There was also a fee for the exams and a fifteen shilling fee if you failed entry to the roll the first time round. Not sure how much it initially cost for the training. There is some jargon with the act although there are quite sensible rules also. Ireland would have been under English rule at Mary's time of enrolment and previously when she started her training. It does seem like a very high standard of training as it would be the same throughout the British isles at that time.

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« Reply #214 on: Monday 08 October 12 22:24 BST (UK) »
Hi again.

Thank you for the info on the training, interesting. Having checked again on my tree Ellen would have been my Uncles Aunt. Unfortunately now there is no one left to ask for more info. My Aunt & Uncle had a son in 1940 but tragically my cousin was killed when the Vulcan bomber he was in blew up over Cottesmore RAF base back in 1968.!!

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« Reply #215 on: Tuesday 09 October 12 11:35 BST (UK) »
hi there i have an ellen but shes born 1864 so wouldnt be her ...Maddie this Goodman family of yours  i was looking through newpaper stuff last night etc and saw stuff on a goodman family in ricky and also talbot rd was mentioned ...a lot of it was on William born around early 1800s  ...My goodmans lived in talbot rd as well ...but it was called "redpale rd " before .