George GOODMAN

[bgoodman]

Hi another huge thank you to Jtas who has informed me that Mary Goodman did do her training with The Rotunda Hospital, Dublin Ireland.Her address is 23 Dillon Street Clonmel. Her number was 11354. She started 1894 and enrolled (?registered) in 1905. Well I am pleased to see that she really was a midwife and not just a wet nurse trying to put on airs and graces. I will e-mail my brother who in turn will hopefully pass this info on to my cousin, who is already trying to research the training aspect. If I do manage to get hold of a copy of her records it may give more information even if it is just on her side of the family. Especially with the expected sparseness of the death notice I need something to float my boat.

[Maddie]

Well done Jackie, that is a great find. So, I wonder where Mary was in the 1901 Irish census. Now we know that she wasn't in Ricky/Watford when Catherine died, if Catherine hopefully turns out to be her daughter.

The death notice for Catherine does say it's in the Obit section. Fingers crossed there is more info. Can't say I'm very impressed with HALS service.

Maddie

[bgoodman]

Hi, maybe you should have crossed more fingers Maddie as I have now managed to obtain the info from Watford Library. It is indeed just a death notice of all those who have died recently (in Feb1894). It just states the name, age, date and where the person died. Interestingly the day before there was another death at St Vincent's of an Emma Reid age 30 years. One of you rootschat people did say that as it was meningitis there may have been other deaths, which may now have been the case. With that photographer my brother informs me that the address in Harrogate may have been the business address and he believes some of those guys had shops in Ireland as well.

[Maddie]

Oh rats, we don't have much luck finding that missing link to George, do we.

It does sound as if there was an outbreak of meningitis in 1894, how sad.

There's a few bits about Walter Davey photographer on the net, I saw mention of him starting out in Brighton.

If you are interested I found an ebook on the net, it's a history of Rotunda Hospital Dublin.

 http://archive.org/details/bookofrotundahos00kirk

Where to go from here.

Maddie

[bgoodman]

1888 Burials

[bgoodman]

Entry number 2704 Arthur William Goodman infant son of Arthur and Emma Goodman 8 mths 4th march 1888, Place of burial L.10, No. of grave 26a in consecrated ground. Place of death Rickmansworth. From what parish removed Rickmansworth.
Entry Number 2707 Mary Louisa Goodman daughter of Arthur and Emma Goodman aged 3yrs death occurred in Rickmansworth 11th of March 1888. Place of burial L.10, 27a in consecrated ground. My ggrand father appears to be the only Goodman on that page in unconsecrated ground. Lots of Goodman deaths in March 1888. George's daughter Margaret Phyllis is buried later 30th of May also1888, unconsecrated ground also. The other child died later Teresa Gertrude, in Ireland, sept 1888. Not sure if the former Goodmans Arthur and Emma are related to any Goodman rootschat people.

[Maddie]

Hi

That's sad, those two little children belong to caz's Arthur & Emily nee White. Arthur born c1863 was the son of James.

They have moved to Bushey by 1891.

Added, sorry, got that wrong, Mary Louisa was the daughter of Arthur & his first wife Harriet Miles who died in 1885, he married secondly Emily in 1886 & they had Arthur William.


Maddie

[1783caz]

Hi there ...yes your right maddie thats my arthur goodman ...i think he was a ladies man ....married 3 times and one was a kate gristwood as well ...
im sure there was an outbeak of meningitus ...i think one of ours died of it as well around same time ... i have seen it somewhere about an outbreak but cant remember where  (my poor head is crammed of useless info lately lol ) i know there was a death in frogmore lane i think it was ...on my family around the mid to late 1880s might of also been the meningitus .
Strangley enough i found the martha hawes and gristwoods i mentioned other day are mine as well lol
do we know what year george junior was born ? i have found a  george married without kids living near ricky ...not sure who he is yet .

[bgoodman]

Hi 1783Caz I guess the consecrated and unconsecrated ground separates our Goodman families. That is why I was trying to establish what religion George (senior) was before his marriage to Mary McCarthy. I was informed that it was unlikely in 1848 for there to be Catholic families around the Hertfordshire area. Therefore if George was born a catholic I would have to consider George and his family coming into this area from an area where there were Goodman Catholics, or perhaps another dissident religion. It really is amazing how far that you have got although you must feel swamped with the amount of information that you are unearthing. The giant puzzle will hopefully all fit together for you eventually. George Junior was born 1881, all the children were born Bury farm Batchworth, Rickmansworth..