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Re: George GOODMAN
« Reply #99 on: Monday 27 August 12 20:36 BST (UK) »
Hi both

Caz, those Goodman's you have from the militia list are the ones I mentioned in a previous post. The Militia List itself is a compilation of men who were of the age to be called up for service should any conflict suddenly arise & more men were needed. Individual Parishes drew up these lists from about 1757 until about 1800.

I wouldn't think many of them ever joined the Militia but they are a good reference to the families living in the parishes prior to any census.

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« Reply #100 on: Thursday 30 August 12 08:52 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks to you Ray, Caz and Maddie re BMI details of ?Mary Katherine (Catherine) daughter of George Goodman. I sent for and now received the death cert that Ray first mentioned. I am 95% sure that it is the correct cert. It stated that father George Goodman farm laborer (deceased). That is correct as her father died in 1888. It gave the address as St Vincents Convent Percy Road Watford and she was aged 14 years, (1879). I believe the original girls home had moved from Queen's Road by then. She died from Cerebral Meningitis on 16th of Feb 1894, poor lass. Strange that her mother was not mentioned at all. There was a Martha (?Wilkes) present. A million thanks to you all for your kind support.

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« Reply #101 on: Thursday 30 August 12 12:11 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am pleased that you have found Catherine but saddened by yet another loss of your Goodman family. Perhaps her mothers details just weren't mentioned on the death cert but may have been recorded at the school.

I have been trying to find Martha Wilkes on the census but can't spot her, was it definitely Wilkes. !!

If only you could find where George Jnr went.............

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« Reply #102 on: Thursday 30 August 12 21:30 BST (UK) »
 ;D

I'm having doubts now about Catherine in the 1891 "home".
Something doesn't add up for me (sorry)
Born Catherine 1879 Ireland ?


Mind you, the building has a wonderful entrance.
Must try to find a map with the road layout prior to it being built.


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« Reply #103 on: Thursday 30 August 12 22:53 BST (UK) »
Thank you Ray and Maddie for your replies. Re the Martha present at Catherine's death, it is very difficult to make out the writing therefore I am not sure at all that it is Wilkes. I will try and get some other opinions on what the surname might be. I know what you mean Ray re uncertainties and I also feel that I can not be 100% sure although there is a strong possibility, especially with the deceased father named George. Also bearing in mind that it was fairly unusual to have a R/C Goodman in the area. It is also the second time as George (junior) Goodman was found in the boys R/C school also. When Hubert enlisted in the army he gave his mother as his first next akin and said that he also had an elder brother George in London. I did wonder if the George who worked as a porter in Paddington, in the 1901 census, was George (junior), although it also stated that he was born in Ireland in 1881. It was known in my family that my grand father Hubert tried putting a notice in a newspaper in an attempt to find George later on. I have also never managed to discover which newspaper he put that notice in.

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« Reply #104 on: Thursday 30 August 12 23:51 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I have just looked at Hertfordshire names online site, i put in catherine goodman and it came up with there is an obituary in the local paper for feb.1894. I wondered if anyone is going over to hertford archives this week if they could actually look at the newspaper article as it may contain fresh information. There is also an obituary for a george goodman aged 8 months that died in 1883 from Rickmansworth. again that could have something, especially as to whom placed the article, did ag labs have money to spend on placing death notices.

I look forward to another update. Caz have you got any further with your Goodmans?

Bye for now

jackie

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« Reply #105 on: Friday 31 August 12 00:23 BST (UK) »
Well done Jackie on finding that obit for Catherine, if no one is going to HALS it can be ordered on line, cost is £6 for a copy. Interesting to find who did place it in the paper, I don't think any of my ag labs could afford an obit. ;)

There is also a George Goodman in the 1911 living in Friern Barnet who looks interesting. The 1911 is free on Ancestry at the moment, only have to register as a guest........ :)

Can you post the part of the cert that has Martha's name on it, if it's a local name I might recognize it. !!!!!


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« Reply #106 on: Friday 31 August 12 08:35 BST (UK) »
Morning!

If "Martha Wilkes" was a matron/nurse/teacher then she may have been "transient" and not there at the census before/after the death.

There is a Martha Wilkes 39 Schoolmistress in Hampstead 1901  1 Mutrix Rd
A house full of Schoolmistresses.

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« Reply #107 on: Friday 31 August 12 09:00 BST (UK) »
Hi

Others from HALS maybe worth looking at in case of "hidden" facts . . . . .
(HALS search Goodman 1850-1910)

Watford Petty Sessions : Drunk and disorderly (George Goodman)
Hertfordshire Mercury page 3 10/09/1881

Death notice of Frederick Goodman. Died 18th August aged 29
Watford Leader page 8 22/08/1893 (Croxley Green / Frederick Goodman)

Deaths : Death notice of Priscilla Ann Goodman. Died 2nd April aged 37
Watford Leader page 8 10/04/1894
   
Watford Petty Sessions : Breaking windows at girl's school
Watford Leader page 8 05/06/1894
   
Obituary of Charles Goodman : Died 20 September 1894
Hertfordshire Mercury page 8 29/09/1894
   


The one I liked tho . . . .
Watford Petty Sessions : Riding Asleep (Wm Goodman)
Watford Leader page 8 11/12/1894


Ray
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"You can’t give kindness away.  It keeps coming back". Mark Twain (?).