George GOODMAN

[1783caz]

hi there thanks for the more info on my goodmans ...i will look into it more this week as been bit busy to do anything lately ...Your George certainly got out and about ...i hope the certificate you have ordered is the one and gives a new lead

[Maddie]

I don't suppose this is of any relevance but thought I would post it as it might help if you could find the missing George Jnr........

In the unassisted passenger list for Victoria Australia is a George Goodman aged 31 in 1912, he sailed on the Irishman from Liverpool to Melbourne.

If you do a Google search for the SS Irishman there's some interesting info, apparently the 1912 sailing was quarantined in Melbourne because of an outbreak of measles. Might be worth a posting on the Oz board, someone might have more info. He probably isn't your George but no harm in trying to find out.

Did Hubert join the militia in England or Ireland.

Maddie

[1783caz]

hi just out of interest how did your kind male goodman DNA thing reach USA ? just curious as one of our goodmans moved there during ww2 ...prob not same but still curious how you got to it ? so interesting

[bgoodman]

Thanks Maddie and Caz for your comments. Re my grand father's Hubert's regiment he was in the Leinster Regiment 100 foot and I have all his records for that. It is written on his attestation papers, in answer to whether he was in the army before,  the word "only" the Royal Irish 41, no dates unfortunately. Looked that up and it appears to be Victorian Forts Artillery. The 41 appears to be department or company. The Coast Brigade 1891 was reorganized and disbanded eventually. The Victorian forts were to be manned by the Garrison Artillery supplemented by volunteer artillery. Re the number 41 found little info for later years leading up to 1900s. Fort Grange 1890 May No 34,41 Batteries Southern division GA R.A (A.l). Saw a photo of Fort Grange in Portsmouth which was interesting as it appears quite intact. Did a beta search on National Archives for Hubert Goodman and really just got the information that I already had re his medals etc. Not sure where he enlisted for the Royal Irish as he didn't seem to refer to it as being in the army as such. Maybe he was a volunteer or a cadet. He would have been about 18years in 1901. I will look again about that George that you mentioned Maddie and have a think. With the DNA I got the chap in England to swab but the swabs go to the USA because that is where the company is based. Familytreedna.

[bgoodman]

I have posted on Tipperary Ireland forum re my grand father Hubert Goodman, son of George Goodman (senior). I received a reply re using the 1901 Irish Census. Putting for example the letter G for the surname and H for the first name and the age 18years, this gave me quite a lot of census detail on military barracks etc. It also gives the religion of the person. Having found a G with a H of an 18 year old male, who was C/E, I was further able to discount that as I know Hubert and his mother were R/C. This info may be of use to someone trying to research in Ireland.

[bgoodman]

In one of the Dictionary's of National Biography I found another interesting Goodman, although unrelated to my research on George Goodman. Goodman, Cardell of Cardonnell (1649?-1699), adventurer; B.A. St John's College, Cambridge, 1670: page of the back stairs to Charles 11; afterwards an actor, winning his success as Julius Caesar and Alexander; pardoned by James 11 for a highway Robbery; paramour of the Duchess of Cleveland, but fined for an attempt to poison her children; expert at ombre; bribed by friends of Fenwick not to turn evidence against him, 1697; died in France. What ordinary lives us other Goodman people live eh!

[bgoodman]

Hi 1783 Caz did you see Keith's ancestors on google search there is a mention near the end of the page re Thomas and Zilpah. The heading is Keith's Ancestors. It may or may not be of interest to you as it may be info you that you already know.
www.keru.co.uk/FH/Keith's%20Ancestors/at01/at01_003.htm
Occupation: Labourer, Sawyer. ... 60 Thomas GOODMAN. ... Thomas died in West Hyde, Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, England on 2 Nov 1851, he was 85.

[1783caz]

hi there ...yes thanks .... ive seen keiths ancestors and already have that info and zilpahs parents ...ive been sent some militia papers with goodmans on it pre 1800 that im just looking at and theres a Thomas on it from 1780 ...and previous to that theres John (1769 ),George (1778)  and a Daniel (1778) . (im not sure what this list means as ive never heard/seen of it before and not sure what it points out ?  )

[bgoodman]

Hi 1783 Caz on the National Archives the person beta search will no longer exist in September. If you do want to chase up any of those names on their site it is better to do it as soon as you can.