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« Reply #72 on: Monday 06 August 12 10:51 BST (UK) »
Hi

For your notes . . . . .

If you search 1911 for
Albert Goodman 33 bRickmansworth
(living hillingdon West)

you get a very helpful list (un-indexed coz crossed out) confirming the make-up of a (Rickmansworth) Goodman family.


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« Reply #73 on: Monday 06 August 12 12:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Ray i think that goodman family thats on that one is my Great Grandfathers children and his wife who is widowed ... i dont know why their names have been entered on that form ...maybe it was a mistake ...it appears Louisa gristwood herself filled it out herself ...perhaps  she wasnt quite with it or knew what she was doing . :)

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« Reply #74 on: Tuesday 07 August 12 07:53 BST (UK) »
Hi

 . . . . . and it is a nice way to confirm your research.


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« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 01:02 BST (UK) »
Yes Ray, Mary Katherine 1879 Watford is the correct birth. On the actual birth cert it confirms born Batchworth Rickmansworth etc. I could understand transcribing one detail incorrectly re St Catherine's but several seem a bit doubtful. Such as first name, surname, the place of birth etc. On the other hand it does seem a coincidence to have another R/C Goodman around an area whereby there were supposed to be few R/C.
1783Caz it is amazing just how many ancestors you have managed to find keep up the good work. If you keep going you may find that you are from a Goodman Pedigree such as Goodman of Blaston and Easton. William of Easton was descended from Goodmans of Cheshire. These chaps have the coat of arms with an eagle displayed with two heads. The family were the owners of the manor of Blaston and Bradley. I think one of the descendents Richard ended up in Melbourne displaying the coat of arms on buildings etc. Another Pedigree not to be sniffed at appear to be Goodman of Northampton.


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« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 11:41 BST (UK) »
Hi BGoodman ...thanks for the info ...would be great to get there and find outmore in the goodman line if pedigree but unfortunatley im now stuck on Thomas Goodman who married Zilpah ...Ive found he come to Rickmansworth from Wiltshire ....looking at a history on a wiltshire website it reads how some rich person bought all the land and flattened the lot .Leaving everyone homeless and jobless ...this is how he may of ended up in Rickmansworth ..but i cant see if he come with other family members or by himself or why he chose Rickmanswrth ? Someone mentioned Goodmans in Rickmansworth pre 1800s maybe they might be related as to why he moved to that location ? I dont know where to look ? at a brick wall now lol

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« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 14:00 BST (UK) »
Hi 1783Caz I tried looking at The National Archives site and put in Thomas Goodman 1600-1800 and lots of Goodman wills came up. There is a mention of different areas also. Have you tried looking for stuff that way. There was a Thomas and several others. I also saw a Francis Goodman although I seldom see that first name. I wondered about the name Francis as it was my grand father Hubert's second name. It seemed a strange name for the time as he was born in 1883. If you have already got back as far as Zelpah you have indeed covered some distance. Don't be disheartened although I know it is awful to feel stuck. Keep up the good work.

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« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks for the info ...i have spent all afternoon looking into where thomas come from (Rushall wiltshire ) on a marraige form it read "russell" perhaps it was mispelt as theres nowhere in wiltshire called russell but couldve been rushsal as well...I read it was in the parish of Pewsey at the time ...Theres loads of goodmans in the somerset/swindon areas in 1700s all related i think ...but its wether mine connect to them ...i think i will have to try and get thomas birth certificate when i find out where to obtain it from in order to get his parents name ...might also be worth my while cancelling with ancestry and joining national archives instead ...everyone seems to get better results from there :)

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« Reply #79 on: Thursday 09 August 12 19:39 BST (UK) »
Hi 1783Caz I probably discovered what you already know re Thomas born 1766 in Wiltshire. Thomas died in West Hyde Rickmansworth on 2nd Nov 1851 he was 85. Buried on 6th Nov 1851. I didn't come across the name of the place that you were looking for. I read an article about Ramsbury and Holy Cross Church which was medieval. Would the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre not be able to help you. I noticed in their archives that there was a Stephen Goodman who had Administration Bond stuff in 1780s and to me it appeared to be his will. In that will it may mention other people. It also mentions dean and Salisbury. I guess that was the bishop of Salisbury. I read somewhere about Sir Stephen Arthur Goodman Major-General. He may have been related to that family re his social standing etc.

There is some history with Goodman members and high positions within the church. As early as 1548 John Goodman was Dean of Wells. 1617 Re Bishop of Hereford, Godfrey Goodman who was bishop of Gloucester was elected but declined the appointment. Goodman 1624 Bishops of Gloucester. Godfrey Goodman, dean of Rochester; his see was sequestrated in 1640, and he died a papist in 1640. The see was vacant for five years. He was a nephew of Gabriel dean of Westminster. Gabriel, among other things founded a Grammer School, Ruthin etc. Not sure if that is a place. Christopher Goodman puritan devine (protestant) was forbidden to preach and deprived of the benefice of Alford for non conformity. He was visited on his deathbed at Chester by Archbishop Ussher. 

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Re: George GOODMAN
« Reply #80 on: Friday 10 August 12 20:14 BST (UK) »
hi there ...thanks for more info ...im engrossed with the wills part that you mentioned ...hunting hunting hunting ...

i went over to the lovely watford museum today to try and find our James Goodman who i assumed died in the workhouse ...they only have the survivng records of births /deaths in there and couldnt find him sigh ....but what they did tell me was very interesting ...when people died in there they were buried at Watford cemetery across the road...with only a wooden plaque that wouldve deteriorated over time being as no family to pay for a headstone ...what the people in the workhouse did was etch their names into the bricks in the old courtyard of the administration building ...i managed to get there today and although getting strange looks from people looking at brickwork ...i did see some of the remaining names etched into the brick and by chance found a Gristwood & took photo just incase ... not a totaly wasted journey as i found it quite amazing to see these names ...you get a right feel for it when seen ...long live shrodells :)