George GOODMAN

[bgoodman]

Good morning all, I also have John Goodman's death cert. he was my ancestor George Goodman's brother. John died Feb 4 1909, Old Grays Cottages Harefield Road. Considering he was baptised in 1836 his age, on the cert, is totally out. On the cert he is listed as being 65 years. He was a general labourer. Unlike a lot of that family he didn't die from TB. He died from Aortic Valve Heart Disease, Heart Failure. His wife, Elizabeth Goodman was present at the death. She was nee Lavender, sometimes called Betsey/Betty. The search still goes on for his grandfather Thomas and his uncle William Goodman....

[[Ray]]

Hi

Just in case you hadn't seen this thread (or the later post)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=67261.0


Ray

[bgoodman]

Hi Ray, thank you for the thought and for posting that link. I did have a look at the thread and it does appear that many of the christian names are similar to my Goodman people. Having said that, in the past, I have not been able to connect the Bucks Goodman folk with mine. I did post a message, some time ago, to a roots chatter who mentioned having quite a lot of experience of Goodman research in Bucks. However, she replied that she didn't think that there was any connection to my ancestors.
I was just about to have a rest from FH, having met yet another Goodman brick wall. Thomas 1766, George (junior) 1881 and now William 1804. Then Maddie came up trumps yet again, she found me another piece of history. This time it was my grand father Hubert and his brother George, (as above). It was a document of Rickmansworth National School's admittance form 1887. Each day has an entry. On the 13th of June, Hubert and George Goodman are mentioned as having started at the school.
Their father George died a year later and it appears that his death split the family. I have posted on Canada roots again re George and possible Canadian military records. My family seem to think George was in the military also.

[bgoodman]

Hi all, sadly my mother passed away recently. She married into the Goodman family. She lived in the same house as my Grandfather, Hubert Goodman, George Goodman's son. Mary Goodman, my great grand mother, (nee McCarthy), also lived in that house for a short time. My brother found a photo which appeared to be  stuck to a canvas backing. Not sure if this was how the photo was originally. The photo was of a fairly young man and we are not aware of who this young man was. Around the young man there appeared to be charcoal sketched lines & squiggles. It reminded me of some of those charcoal street drawings you see abroad. Although the photo appeared too good to be a drawing. I wondered if perhaps it was taken out of a frame and the canvas backing just got stuck onto the photo. I tried to peel the canvas back to see if there was any writing on the back. However, I had to stop as it started to cause the photo to crumble. Could this be a photo of Mary Goodman's son George junior or could this be a photo of her husband.

[bgoodman]

Hi all rootschatters, wishing you all a very Happy Christmas and the best of look searching your ancestors in 2015. George Goodman's army career has always been an uphill struggle for me with my research. Whereas his son, my grandfather Hubert's military info, was not too difficult to find at all. I have searched for so long for George's military info and even paid researchers, without success. I eventually found very limited army information concerning George Goodman myself. Recently, when sorting through my childhood home I discovered two pieces of information, one concerning George and one concerning his wife Mary. Bless my belated parents, although it has made me realize that, sometimes, there is more tucked away in family homes than even the owners realize.
When George was discharged from the Cumberland, 31st Regiment of foot, where he enlisted in 1871, he then joined the reserves, abt 1877/78. He appears to have another number 1882, for the Ist Battalion, 16th Regiment of foot. He was discharged from that service in 1883 at Bedford, confirming his place of residence Bury Farm, Rickmansworth, Herts. Apparently he had a mole on his left cheek. From the previous photo that I posted, it appears that the person did not have a mole on his left cheek. I guess then that person in the photo may have been one of George's sons, not George as a young man.
It also confirms that Mary Goodman (nee McCarthy), his wife, was a Midwife and a monthly nurse. Pleased to say that both of them were considered of good character.

[jtas]

hi brenda,

I got a book for christmas thats called tracing your ancestors through family photographs. One of the examples is a boy with a flat cap on that is the same style as your man is wearing, They have dated the picture as being around 1902 - 5. So could yours be a picture of Hubert as a young man or as you say perhaps it is a picture of missing George. Can you bring it into work along with Georges army papers, it would be lovely to see the originals. You do need to think about preserving them as they would be 140years old,(army papers).

Regards,

jackie.

[bgoodman]

Hi Jtas, thank you for your comments. I am pleased to see that you got some FH prezzies for Christmas. My brother has the original military document re George Goodman senior. Luckily he is also interested in FH therefore he will keep everything safely. He has had a copy done professionally for me, which I must say does look very authentic. Also he gave me a copy of Mary's Midwife reference. I hope all you Rootschatters had a good Christmas.

[[Ray]]

Hi

It never fails to gobsmack me what you find when you are just browsing.

Just looking at some of the WelwynGC fotos re; an earlier query, and who should turn up?

Yup, a "George Goodman" . . . . .

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01emc/

[ He is also mentioned on the following page to that link ]

Ray

ps I remember WELGAR Shredded Wheat from wen I was young
but I didn't realise WELGAR = Welwyn Garden (City).

[bgoodman]

Hi Ray, sorry for the late reply. Thank you for that link. That is an interesting article re George Goodman. I estimate that chap to be born abt 1898. My George junior was born 1881, shame as I would have been happy to have claimed that chap. It is good of you to keep my Goodman name in mind. I wasn't aware of that abbreviation for Welwyn Garden City either or that shredded wheat was made in that area.
I found some more photos when I visited Ireland again but they are unlikely to be related to my Goodman family. My father and his brothers and sisters were all born in the family home. I did ask my mom some time back if she knew who the people were but she did not. I use to take photos to Ireland to show my mom and dad when I first met my husband. I found one of my husband's aunt that only I would have known who she was. I also found a photo of a child and an older man. My cousin happened to be present, from England, and she was able to identify the person. My father's sister had taken a photo back to Ireland abt 1945, of her husband's father with his grandson. It goes to show that some photos may not have any direct relation to our ancestors at all. Just another thing to frustrate us FH people.