George GOODMAN

[bgoodman]

Oh gosh Ray I never thought of that. There were some bracketed letters after the names also which I took for the archives codes system. Ah well one less complication to worry about.

[1783caz]

   hahahahahaaaaa thats funny !

[bgoodman]

Hi, that's what desperation does to you, mangles your brain. While going back over the Ricky parish microfilms, I found a leaflet in Watford Library re courses at HALS, perhaps I need them more than most. Seriously though, there are some interesting ones mentioned. Shame that the majority of them have already taken place. Sept 30th there is a session on the Legal system and on the 21st of Oct there is a session on how to use maps for family and local history. The courses past were about stuff such as ancestors health records, schools, and crime. Course on how best to use the internet, old handwriting and even an introduction to essential Latin for FH. They do other stuff in insddition to these courses such as talks, worships etc. Most stuff is fee paying but they do tours and talks on how to use the catalogue s for free.

[bgoodman]

Sorry for the spelling, sometimes phones are just not helpful. Rushing to eat dinner that will teach me.

[gilbertlouise]

Hi..
Thomas Goodman would be my 4th Great Granddad. I have been drastically crawling through the web today. I have had confirmation from archive people that Thomas's baptism definitely isn't on the Rushall list. I have been thinking a little outside the box...If the census for 1841 is the same Thomas and it says he isn't of that parish...Well...around that time there were a lot of immigrations from Ireland and America...there is a Wiltshire in America. If you look closely at the actual 1851 census...the word Russell, doesn't actually look like it ends with an l...it looks like it could be a t or a b perhaps.
But I have also come across something else this morning on my travels of the world wide web...There was a yeoman with an estate in Wiltshire and the Yeoman's name was Joseph Russell. I have other relations who were actually born in Moor park because their family worked on the Moor Park estate...what says that Thomas wasn't actually born on the Russell estate? It says the community is Bramshaw...this was half in Wiltshire and half in Hampshire and later became just a part of Hampshire....
If they were farmers..it could be likely. There is also a story going around going back in time a bit here that agricultural labourers were up in arms about wages so many fled to new jobs in new areas.
I also found a tithing document on HALS for a Rickmansworth Thomas Goodman. My Granddad had property tithed with the job. Perhaps Thomas's birth info had to be given for a tithed property?

Happy hunting.

Gill

[1783caz]

Oh wow ! .... weve another Thomas Goodmans decendent 

I was also closely examining the word Russel in the census other day and was thinking it doesnt look like RUSSELL /RUSHALL ....more like rustle ...there was a wave of immigration in 18th century of jewish in the south west as well ...i think we need to go back to basics on this and look closely at least obvious things ...Gill may i ask which line you descend from ? Thomas is my 5th great grandfather ....followed by the 2 jameses  and george then to joseph .
please keep us upto date with your findings as we can all crack this one together 

[[Ray]]

Hi Gill

Welcome to the Goodman group and their merry band of helpers.   

"The Game Keeper's twins" - are there many twins in the family?

I would like some specifics in order that I don't spend time making assumptions and duplicatiing effort.

Would you confirm which names/census ref/year for the following ?
* Which Thomas 1841 Wiltshire? there are (at least) 6.
* "Yeoman with an estate . . . .  Russel"
* Moor Park relations?
* "My Grandad had property tithed with the job" Do you mean grandfather or gtx4G?

One of my buddies, his gx?grandparents lived on the MoreParkMansion estate . . . . . 
(still trying to prove links so will not complicate matters yet)

Cheers
Ray

Caz
What person/census ref were you looking at?
R

[1783caz]

hi ray , its the 1841 census with thomas in ricky ...when you check the actual census record itself it doesnt look like it reads "rushall" but something else ...
1841 census ....Thomas Goodman
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1771
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Rickmansworth
Hundred: Cashio
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

we did have relations work in moor park ...James Goodman cousin to my 1x great grandfather (joseph) ...watford observer .....im not aware of any others yet but would love to know more

[[Ray]]

 

It's 1851  not 1841

According to wiki, there is only 1 place name in Wilts beginning "rus" 'tis Rushall. (0 in Hants)
Wiltshire accent heard in 'Erts?
and
it may be the only thing that HE remembers of his childhood.

Erm, I was born in 'Olloway.    but never lived there, so I only remember 'Arrer.

Ray