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Re: George GOODMAN
« Reply #387 on: Wednesday 27 March 13 17:59 GMT (UK) »
hiya , so i take it we think bgoodmans George seniors father or grandfather is the blacksmith ? ? i dont actualy have his birth certificate ...and i havent done any of my grandparents siblings lines as ive been having a break from it all ...but i will try this eve and get some done ...George 1844 though i remembered i looked and couldnt find anything on him ,he was a tough one ...seems he totaly dissapeared of the face of the earth ??? Blimey im like a dog with a bone now lol ....ive got to crack this ... might be worth finding out what other test if any will be of use ....Ive got a feeling Maddies Goodmans might be connected as its very odd they lived in Talbot Rd ,where mine lived in Redpale Road (redpale later become talbot ) and both of ours lived in New Road ...

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« Reply #388 on: Wednesday 27 March 13 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

I recently done an online course looking at parish records and one of the things we looked at was mutiple baptisms. Many people were baptized as a job lot, even years after they had been born, i found an example in my own tree where online they had put the name of the first child only, so when i looked at the orignal record i found that three children had been baptized, of which two were twins. Therefore, i wonder if George was baptized at some point with his brothers/ sisters especially if his father was a journey blacksmith and they had been travelling around alot while they were small. I will have another look on findmy past.

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Re: George GOODMAN
« Reply #389 on: Wednesday 27 March 13 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Sorry to say, I know my Goodman line has no connection to George etc & yes the connection to me is only through marriage so no blood line at all. :-\

If you need to run through the census again for all the Goodman families just shout & we can try to sort them out.

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« Reply #390 on: Saturday 30 March 13 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, that is very interesting Jtas re all the names not being listed. Well done to you for finding the time to do and complete the online course. It sounds as though it was worth it.
I remember reading some time ago that some of our ancestors had christenings done as a job lot. However, I expected all the names to appear for that year when an initial search was done. It goes to prove it is always better to look yourself at the original document.
1783caz that would be correct George senior is likely to be the 7 year old in the 1851 census with his father the blacksmith James. I did wonder if James, the blacksmith's son who was 10 in the 1841 census could possibly be the father of George senior. James junior would be 17 or 18  in 1848 which is the birth year I calculated from George senior's death age (39) in 1888. Of course that could have been cancelled out if it had only said father's occupation on George senior's marriage cert.
Do you know if the son James Goodman married a lady called Louisa and later had a son George himself. I can see a family in the 1881 census in Batchworth. Is that James 1783caz's ancestor. Also what is Louisa's maiden name. I couldn't find a marriage for those two. I did send off for 1844 George's birth but stipulated that it should have the full name George Joseph Goodman. I may later order it at just George although I was interested in cancelling out whether George senior was given both names at birth like his son. Especially with the marriage cert in the church stating name Joseph and the registered cert stating George as the first name.


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Re: George GOODMAN
« Reply #391 on: Sunday 31 March 13 14:21 BST (UK) »
hi there , yes that all makes sense to me ...im still trying to get my brains round it all ...not had time to do the siblings lines as going away to cornwall for the week early tomorrow ...James junior had a son "George " who is my 2nd great grandfather born in Batchworth Heath in 1863 ( hes the man that bought me to this site lol ) .... i now have a picture of him and find it very uncanny how he looks like my 1st grandfather ... James married Louisa who was Louisa Gristwood by birth ...i have various certificates for my direct line ...inc their marraige certificate ...

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« Reply #392 on: Sunday 31 March 13 14:33 BST (UK) »
Hi caz

Purely out of interest did James & Louisa marry in Harefield, I know it says Uxbridge for the registration district on Free BMD. Where the witnesses to the marriage any one significant to the family.?

Have a brilliant holiday in Cornwall & hope it warms up a bit for you. :D

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Re: George GOODMAN
« Reply #393 on: Sunday 31 March 13 19:06 BST (UK) »
Hi 1783caz, do enjoy your break in Cornwall. Maddie asked some interesting questions re Louisa and James as the marriage cert may have information that could help to make further connections. When you do get some time it would be good to pick your brains some more.
Not sure if I have understood correctly re your grandfather and great grandfather etc.
There is your dad...                                                                    My dad is John Goodman
There is your grandfather..                                                         My grandfather is Hubert Goodman
There is your great grandfather George Goodman,Louisa's son. My great grandfather George Goodman
There is your great great grand father James Goodman              *My great great is James Goodman
*There is your great great great grand father James Goodman (Blacksmith)                     (Blacksmith)
Therefore if I have understood this correctly your great grandfather George Goodman, Louisa and James son, would be a first cousin to my grandfather Hubert Goodman.

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« Reply #394 on: Sunday 31 March 13 19:53 BST (UK) »
Looking good to me, your Hubert & caz's George would have been cousins...... ;D

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Re: George GOODMAN
« Reply #395 on: Sunday 31 March 13 20:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks for confirming that Maddie and I got your reply in my inbox also. Therefore 1783caz's George, her great grandfather, had a son who is 1783caz's grandfather. I take it that 1783caz's grandfather is my father's first cousin. If only my dear dad was alive and well enough to receive this information. Also his departed brothers and sister, including my uncle George Joseph Goodman, who all died without knowing their relatives. However, I have a brother and cousins who are interested in finding out more which means a lot to me.
Years earlier I had reluctantly given up on James the blacksmith having firstly being trilled at discovering him and then not being able to make a pure connection to George. I mentioned before that Jtas was convinced that James the Blacksmith was the one and I am waiting for her to say told you so.
Having had to give up once on James I was reluctant to really believe in the possibility again. Therefore, initially when I found the result of the DNA information it was almost inconceivable, to be back again from where I first started.
The strange thing is my family didn't appear to know where in England my great grandfather came from. They were even a bit vague about my grandfather being born in England. The only reason I came to Watford, Hertfordshire was because a lady next door to my uncle George Goodman mentioned applying for work here. When questioned and questioned my family at first thought my great grand father came from Reading or somewhere that begins with R. Who would have thought Rickmansworth where my children went to school etc. My son even did a project on the gravel pits which are now the lakes. One of which is where Bury Farm Cottage once stood.