George GOODMAN

[Maddie]

Hi

Looks like Harrow & Roxborough Park could be a starting point as they are on the old turnpike road from Ricky to Harrow, if any records survive.

Fr Hardy got about a bit in West Herts, didn't he.

Maddie

[[Ray]]

Hi


1901 RG13 1326 51 p13
42 StJohnsRoad, Boxmoor, (Hemel Hempstead) [then 9 Anchor Lane]
Henry J Hardy 50 Camden Priest (Roman Catholic Church)
Lily A Pratt 26 Domestic Housekeeper HeathnReachBeds
Alice E Moore 21 Housekeeper Vauxhall

1891 RG12 1039 97 p30
College Road, Harrow
Henry J Hardy 50 StPancras Catholic Priest

1881 RG11 1359 26 p46
St Thomas House Roxborough Road Harrow
Henry James Hardy 40 StPancras Roman Catholic Priest

1840 St Pancras Dec 1 239 Henry James Hardy

1841 HO107 681 2 50 p29
Camden Street
John Hardy 30 Master in University School
Georgeana Hasey (Hardy?) 25
Vesus Hardy 2   (Vesey Malden Hardy b 1839 St Pancras Mar 1 242?)
Henry Hardy 10mo
+pupils

1851 HO107 1498 326 p35
John T V Hardy Head 42 Dublin ? Beb? Classical Tutor in Uni College School
Georgiana    Hardy    Wife    40    St Pancras,
Vesey M    Hardy    Son    12    St Pancras,
Henry T    Hardy    Son    10    St Pancras,
Anne       Hardy    Dau    8      St Pancras,
George H    Hardy    Dau    5      St Pancras,
Alicia C    Hardy    Dau    3    St Pancras,
Irene       Hardy    Dau    1    Westminster

1861
Langley Station School, Abbots Langley
John T V    Hardy    Head    50    Ireland      BA Lon Schoolmaster
Georgiana A    Hardy    Wife    50    London    
Henry Jas    Hardy    Son    20    London “AA xxxx”? + Underg. Uni Lon    
Ann    Hardy    Daughter    18    London    
Geo    Hardy    Son       15    London    
Alicia    Hardy    Daughter    12    London    
Irene    Hardy    Daughter    10    London    
Wm    Pitt    Boarder    13    Lindley    Yorkshire    
Alfd    Riley    Boarder    12    Huddersfield    Yorkshire    

1871 RG10 670 86 p4
139, Upper Kensington Lane
Charlotte Green 41 Head, Lodging House Keeper Clevedon Somerset
Eliza White 18 Niece Bruton Somerset
Charles W Dredge 13    Nephew Westminster
Philip W Sauger 19 Boarder Lambeth
Ernest E Dugmore 28    Head, Curate of StPeters Vauxhall Bayswater
Henry J Hardy 30 Head, Curate of StPeters Vauxhall London Middlesex


Ray

[Maddie]

Hi

Well done Ray, you found Fr Hardy in 1881 & 1891.

I wonder if Mary asked for Fr Hardy to bury George & daughters because he also baptised them all.

This sounds like it could be the same church, Our Lady of St Thomas & Canterbury, 22 Roxborough Park, Harrow on the Hill.

Is it possible they could still have records.

Maddie

[[Ray]]

Hi

Yup, this opens up quite a few possibilities.

[and all 1-handed! I had a hand op Thursday evening!)

What shall we do next?


R

[Maddie]

Hey, hope your hand recovers soon.

(What shall we do next?)

No idea, any suggestions.

Maddie

[bgoodman]

Hi, thank you both very much and I hope the arm is better soon Ray. I will chase up any Harrow and Roxborough R/C churches next, by sending an e-mail if it is possible. Failing that I will have to get myself up to HALS and if there is no joy there maybe go in person to Westminster. It may be possible to search specific registers myself at Westminster. I feel that I have already asked too much of the archives to e-mail them further. Yes I wondered also if they did use the same priest re the baptisms and burials, as afterall there would have been a shortage of priests in the Hertfordshire area.

[Maddie]

Our Lady of St Thomas & Canterbury, Roxborough Park, has a web site with an e-mail addy..... here's hoping they can help.

Maddie

[jtas]

Hi all

You certainly have been busy, bgoodman where do you find your information!!! Have you had any further developments on your Mary Goodman (macarthy) midwifery career. Has there been any further information on the photographer, it may be worthy sending a copy into one of these genealogy magazines to see if they can give you an approx date of when it was taken. Quick point about George senior`s date of birth, i recently was looking at my great great grandfather Joseph farmer, in the 1911 census his birth date was 1855, in another 1856 and in another 1857, the correct one being 1856. So you can see they probably were never sure the year they were born.

Look forward to reading the next instalments, keep up the good work fellow rootschatters.

jackie

[bgoodman]

Thank you Jtas and Maddie for your replies. I have just e-mailed the above church. Re info I just got a vague idea and the real work was done by Ray and Maddie who seem to bounce things off each other which in turn helps to make things clearer. You may well be right Jtas re the different ages with George. If only I had both his parents names I could accept or reject the 1844 George's date of birth. Although the army stuff does seem pretty precise, with the 22 years and 8 months, which also matches with his 39 years at death. However, it is also strange that 1783Caz is unable to find her George (for sure) after the 1851 census when he was 7 years old. I am hoping my cousin can try and get more personnel info from The Rotunda although I got the impression that they were only able to provide general stuff. I know that she started 1894 and actually enrolled as a Midwife in 1902. She must have started the same year that Mary Katherine (Catherine) her daughter supposedly died. Need to find that burial also to confirm that this was definitely her child.