George GOODMAN

[jtas]

Hi bgoodman,

With regards to George`s army records what information do you have besides that he served in conmel and that is where he got married.

I am going to have some more free time for the computer over the next week so i will do some digging around, if caz could put somemore in depth information on her Goodmans it may help with the break through we need to give your George his right branch on the family tree.

see you soon

jackie

[Maddie]

Hi

I'm happy to check out any ref for you if it will help to confirm who George was.

There are 2 Goodman's in Berko from the 1841, Francis aged 55 Farmer not born in county wife Sabrina aged 50 born in county. In 1851 Sabrina is living in Warwickshire.

Joseph aged 41 Carpenter born in county with wife Elizabeth aged 47 born in county. Children Ann 20, Elizabeth 16, William 14, Emma 7, Joseph 5 & John 3.

No sign of a George.........

Maddie

[jtas]

hi maddie/caz/bgoodman

I have just been looking back over our everything, please caz could you verify the exact dates of your 98year old relative`s ancestors uncle george and uncle joseph and her grandfather george  joseph. Could it be possible that this is actually bgoodman`s missing george joseph, that was in the boy`s home. It would fit in nicely if george joseph born 1881, married around 1897 and then his son had our lady around 1914. I know that i am probably clutching at straws but what a eureka moment it would be if it all did fit together like that.

hope to have a reply soon,

Jackie

[bgoodman]

Thank you Jtas and Maddie I do appreciate your effort. On the birth cert of George Joseph (junior) 1881, it is actually typed rather than written. Instead of just saying father George it actually says George Joseph. I feel that also that the use of the second name especially may be significant. I recall that there were some George Joseph people in Hemel and London if my dodgy memory serves me right.I believe a George Joseph was sent to either Australia or New Zealand although he would have been younger than my George (junior). Other than the church using Joseph for George (senior) I haven't seen that name used for him before. The actual civil entry did say George and Hubert on his marriage cert gave his father's name as George. I will look again at the army stuff Jtas although there isn't very much in it. I think he just went to various counties in Ireland.

[Maddie]

Hi

With regard to a George Joseph Goodman birth there are none any where registered on Free BMD between 1843 & 1850, let alone Herts.

As you have a typed copy of George's (junior) birth cert there is a possibility that who ever did the copy made an error with the fathers name. It isn't unheard of to have mistakes on certs unfortunately. Although I can't imagine why George would be named Joseph on his marriage to Mary McCarthy. What a great shame there was no occupation for James, the father of George on that marriage record.

Have you still not received that Obit from HALS.

Maddie

[1783caz]

Afternoon ..... Jackie the info given with regards to my 98yr old relative was incorrect ... dont take any notice of it ....i asked someone to find out for me and they gave me that info back from her ... ( i think its her age /memory thing as she os the only one left rom our joseph ) i checked it all out and my goodmans go upwards as ....
(1887 )Joesph
(1863 )George
(1838) James
(1801 )James
(1760)Thomas.
Theres nothing  more i know about my Goodmans to anyone on here lol ..

If i means anything about using diff names on records ..i found my actual 1st grandfather did this ...he was born Joseph william ( named after a child who dditn survive a year earlier ) he changed his name to william joseph and he used the name william on marraige and was also used when he died .

[Maddie]

Hi caz

Bit spooky this, I have now realised that your George Goodman born c1863 was a very close neighbour to my own Grt Grandparents in Croxley Green. They all lived in New Road 1901 & 1911, in fact my Grt Grandfather died at 123 New Road in 1921, opposite side of the road to 122. I'm sure they were all known to one another. Incidentally I see your George was lodging with the Thackhams in Mill Square 1891, in case you would like to find this on a map it is now called Dickinsons Square & has been for many years.

Maddie

[1783caz]

lol funny enough maddie Ray recently told me where the Mill square was other week after i was racking my brains over it lol ....George Was lodging with the Thackhams as his sister "Ellen" married David Thackham ...looks lke his sister put him and his young family up for a while .

But yeh my grandfather George lived at 122 New rd ...( i read that New rd wasnt actualy a new rd as such it was one of the oldest rds .)
ive got an old picture somewhere i found in a book with loads of kids playing outside in the street BY 122/123 ...i do Wonder who them childen are ? lol .
wasnt no 123 made in to a shop of some sort ?
They wouldve all known each other ...back in the day before tv etc when places had community spirit and liked to socialise lol .

[[Ray]]

Hi

Currently 132-146 is "The Co-op", 141 is James Estate Agents

So 122/123 are nearer The Green.
I Don't think 122 was ever a shop, Nor 123?
125 is Divers shop, previously hairdresser
127 prev a clockmaker/repairer?

(I'm also filling out the Coleman connections who were also almost next door)

Ray