Hamilton Brown 1870

[marcie dean]

 On Genes there is someone named Mark Stevens who was matched with me as he has a relative named Hamilton Brown born 1870, whose father is James Brown and mother is Louisa De Shazo.  Hamilton was born in Kilsyth. but although I have looked on SP I have not found a marriage for them.  There is a James Brown married to a Louisa McIntyre.  I have not yet checked the IGI or Family Search or Ancestry.  But I feel I will need some help on this.    I have however left a message for him to contact me if he has any more details.  His tree is over 42k and will not open to view due to its size, or maybe my OH computer just took one look and decided it did not have enough mips to cope with it.
I am going back to GR to see if I have had an answer.
marcie

[marcie dean]

No such luck. no messages from him as yet.
My Hamilton Brown 1870's father is John Brown and margaret scott.
John is a merchant seaman and margaret when they were getting married was resident at 37 Seabray? in Leith not sure exactly where that is, is it lock side near the canal or nr the dock?

[marcie dean]

 There is onlyone birth in Kilsyth for a Hamilton Brown in 1870, birth 24th November, 1870. Index no. C 11483-3 Scotland ODM Source Film no. 6035516.
Parents are: Alexander Brown and Maggie Henderson Lawson.

So I am wondering if his information is correct, or if he was born somewhere else, and whether they are related to my Brown Family in Leith.
I have a copy of Alexander and Maggies marriage cert which I will try and upload onto here.

[MonicaL]

Hi Marcie

Just a mention on GR and their hot "tree matches".... Did the details by the other GR member with a Hamilton Brown match yours in terms of birth place. When I was a GR member, I used to get lots of irrelevant tree match emails, same names but completely different places of birth....and therefore, absolutely no connection to my names

Monica

[marcie dean]

Hi Monica,
I would say that this happens a lot.  But until you ask the question, you do know if there is a connection.  But I take your point.

I did not find a Hamilton Brown 1870 with the parents he quoted, but I did find a Hamilton Brown with parents Alexander Brown and Maggie Lawson and Alexander Browns father was also Hamilton Brown.
I checked and could not find the parents he had of their Hamilton Brown ever having  existed or married in Kilsyth.
The Alexander Brown I found was a Coal Master and so was his father.
So I wondered if this was a coal merchant or the master/manager of a coal pit?

[sancti]

I don't rely on hot matches on GR, I do searches of names and locations and then contact any matches.

[marcie dean]

Hi sancti,

Usually I contact them to find out if they are within the same ball park as me, check the information that they hold.  then go to sp and see for myself, if i have the credits to do so.

what annoys me most, are those people who you get an instinct for that they do have connections to your tree and family who do not answer.  I have had one or two of those.  The guy who has Hamilton Brown left a message for me today, to say he is busy with a court case, so either he is a solicitor or barrister or he is the offender.  Perhaps he could the judge. 

Although this Hamilton is in Stirlingshire, with his father being a James, I have one or two James Browns who are not married or with children on my tree because I have not managed to find information about them which is why I have to check before committing them to my tree.  One of those loose ends.
Marcie

[sancti]

1871 census has this

Alexander Brown 35 born: Kilsyth, Stirlingsh Occupation: Coal Master
Maggie Brown 24
Agnes Brown 2
Hamilton Brown 5 MO son born: Kilsyth, Stirlingsh
Jessie Wright 30

[sancti]

1871 has this strange transcription

Hamilton Hamilton Brown 59 born Kilsyth
Janet Jane Brown 57
John John Brown 17