Morris FITZGERALD

[Essie]

Hi Merl

Your Richard was said to be a "N=nominated" immigrant meaning someone sponsored him to emigrate. It could have been someone who had arrived previously such as a family member?
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/north1859.htm

Pt Gawler was named as the residence/birthplace for Garrett in1865 and Honora in 1869, and a child of Maurice - Catherine born 1862.

There was more than one Maurice who arrived as a single man but this one lived at Para a short distance from  Pt Gawler. It was a farming district in those days.
FITZGERALD Maurice res: Upper Dry Creek, Little Para rel: RC
m: 21.9.1858 Adelaide SA Anne nee SULLIVAN
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/nugget1858.htm
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/navarino1857.htm

I can only search websites "as a guest" whereas "pay to view" details requires a subscription.

Essie

[Essie]

Hi

Might this record may be an explanation for the Maurice and Elizabeth at Wellington Mill in the 1906 electoral roll?

FITZGERALD EDITH ANN  died aged 17D in 1899 at DENMARK #2074
Parents MAURICE &  ELIZABETH NEWTON 
named as Elizabeth Ann in the birth record.
 
Essie

[merlfitz]

Hi Essie,
Yes I went hunting last night and found the same thing but not the childs death.  I am pleased you found out he was nominated,  I had seen that N and never knew what it meant.  And the GE does that mean government endorsed?
These below are the results of my search so far.

FITZGERALD ELIZABETH ANN  father MAURICE mother  NEWTON ELIZABETH DENMARK 4145 1899

WA MARR BIR:- Maurice birth 1 Jan 1874 married Elizth Newton 1 Jan 1898 child 1899

Name: Maurice Fitzgerald Spouse Name: Elizth Newton Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 1892 Registration Number: 6542

They were in Denmark for the birth of their child in 1899 but not on the electoral roll for 1903 in Denmark. The Elizabeth on the 1906 electoral roll may also be Michael Fitzgerald's wife as he married an Elizabeth.    It is doubtful the Richard on the 1906 in Wellington is ours as he is listed as a teacher and our Richard was illiterate on arriving in Australia. 
I will keep looking at the electoral rolls and see if I can follow his movements.
It was interesting that he was in Victoria about the same time as Richard and Ellen and other members of the family, and came to Denmark about the same time.
  I found 4 deaths in W.A for a Maurice Fitgerald and 2 were aged 80 when died and one was 67 and died in 1931 and one in 1914 in Northam, it didn't state his age. 
Thanks for your help
Cheers
Merline

[Essie]

Merline, more likely son Richard born 1875 listed as "jun" on the electoral roll 1906?

Some coincidence that Maurice and Elizabeth married in VIC when others were also in VIC in that decade, and then lived at Denmark too?   Wonder who the parents were of this Maurice - details on the marriage certificate would be worth knowing.


Essie

[merlfitz]

Hi Essie,
I think Richard "jun" could be him, but not sure.  I will try to get Maurice and Elizabeth's marriage certificate, as you said it would be interesting to see who their parents were.   I am not sure of marriage certificates in Melb. but the S.A marriage cert. only had the fathers name. 
Thanks for the help
Cheers
Merl

[merlfitz]

Hi Essie
I purchased the marriage certificate and it had both father Patrick Fitzgerald and Mother Margaret Quinlan, witnesses were Michael Fitzgerald and Hannah Fitzgerald, both Richards siblings.  They were married at Clifton Hills and lived in  Northcote which is where we found most of the family.  Maurice was from Limerick.  He was 26 when they married in March 1892 so I wonder if they had children in Vic. as I can't find anymore births after the death of baby Edith in Denmark.  Also interested to see what the family connection is.
So I am off searching again
Cheers
Merl

[Essie]

Hi Merl

Found two children born in SA to Patrick and Margaret at Dalkey - very close to Alma where Richard and Ellen lived for a few years.

Richard FITZGERRALD b. 13.09.1876
Parents: Patrick FITZGERRALD & Margaret QUINLAN
Birth Place/Residence: Dalkey
District Code: Gil, Book: 172 & Page: 276

Thomas FITZGERRALD b. 13.01.1879
Parents: Patrick FITZGERRALD & Margaret CONLAN
Birth Place/Residence: Dalkey
District Code: Gil, Book: 215 & Page: 221

From the Biographical Index SA.
FITZGERALD Pat b: c1841 IRL wife Mgt b: c1845
arr: 1875 TREVELYAN
occ: Farm Labourer
ch: Morris (1865-), Pat (1867-), Garrett (1869-), John (1870-), Michl (1872-),
Lawrence (1873-), Honora (@1875-)

I am inclined to think Maurice in WA in 1905 was from this family and not the Maurice born in 1883.

TROVE has Maurice at Northcote in a spot of trouble.

Essie

[merlfitz]

Hi Essie
That was a great find and I also found them in Ireland, so the witness on their marriage certificate could have been Maurices siblings and not our Richard's children.  These are the ones I found on the IGI site.

Patrick Fitzgerald and Margaret Quinlan's children:-
Marino Fitzgerald 4 Feb 1864 Mitchelstown District Cork
Patrick Fitzgerald 28 Feb 1866 Mitchelstown district Cork
Garrett Fitzgerald 9 August 1868 Mitchelstown district Cork
Michael Fitzgerald 8 August 1871 Cork Ireland

A little different from those on the list who came on the Trevalyan, perhaps Marino changed his name to Morris as a Morris wasn't on the list.
I will have a look at the Trove and it wouldn't surprise me if a Fitzgerald was in trouble over in Northcote as another family member was involved with Squizzy Taylor in the 1900's in Daylesford
It is amazing the coincidence with the names, both families living so close and having a Richard, Morris, Garrett, Michael and Honora.  I didn't have her on the list and she was the year of arrival, may have been born at sea. 
Yes I think the Maurice in WA was attached to this family and our Morris died in 1884.
I still need to find if they were related and how???
Thanks for doing such great detective work, from now on we need to call you Sherlock
Cheers Merl

[merlfitz]

Hi Essie,
 I have found what could be  Maurice's death, I looked into the incident on the train Wagin to Albany in 1907 that you picked up Essie and then found a Maurice Fitzgerald was killed by train in Bunbury 6 February 1912 p.  I have tried to find some death notice for him but so far haven't found any.  This could be him though.
Cheers Merl