Walter Beaver Jones 1891 &1901 Census Lookups

[Ladyhawk]

This looks like them in 1871

1871c  RG10 Piece:5689 Folio:90 Page:7 
Tyddin Seffra, Llangelynin, Merioneth
JONES, Walter Head M 48 1823 Caernarvonshire  ? Agent
Cathrine Wife F 36 1835 Cornwall
Augustus Son M 12 1859 Caernarvonshire
Leggie (Lettie?) Daughter F 16 1855 Caernarvonshire 
Cathrine Daughter F 10 1861 New York United States
Louesa M Daughter F 6 1865 Lancashire

Did Walter marry twice - Catherine's age seems to differ although place of birth the same

1891 33
1881 48
1871 36

[IanLambert]

Hi

Thanks again for this

Not that I know of. Perhaps the census ages are wrong instead - They seem to have moved around a lot - Another daughter born New York!!!



Ian

[Ladyhawk]

and here they are in 1861

1861c RG09 Piece:4342 Folio:45 Page:7     
Bangor Street, Llanbeblig, Carnarvon

PARRY, Ann Head Unmarried F 46 1815 Confectioner
WILLIAMS, Alice Servant Unmarried F 15 1846 House Servant

JONES, Walter Lodger Married M 38 1823 Hop Salesman Carnarvon
Catherine Wife Married F 29 1832 Hop Salesman Wife Penzance
Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 6 1855 Pwllheli
Augustus Son Unmarried M 4 1857 Children Pweheli
Catherine Daughter Unmarried F 1 1860 New York America B.S.

[annaS]

I shouldn't worry over much about age.  I have one: 1851 aged 43; 1861: 47; 1871 45 and 1881 72!  I know that it is the same person as she was a spinster and living with her sisters.

Anna

All the other Walter Jones that I have found on the 1901 are 'ag. labs' which doesn't quite fit in the professions of the family.  I'm pretty certain that we have the correct one.

[IanLambert]

Thanks

I agree


Thanks for your and everyone elses help



Ian

[annaS]

Spanner in the works!! Sorry.

I have just looked at the 1891 for the Jones family who Walter B was living with in 1901.  They have on the 1901 an Elizabeth a widow head of the household, and Walter B is purpotedly her brother not brother in law.   

On the 1891 I looked for the daughter Hilda, who was on the 1901 and there they were with a David Jones as head of the household with the various children matching with the 1901.  There doesn't appear to be a David on the earlier census which Ladyhawk found.  However this David was born in Liverpool, and aged 34 on the 1891 which makes him born in 1867.

Walter is not an accountant but I think an assistant.  Not particularly easy to read.  He was however born in Merioneth.

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that the 1901 that I found is possibly wrong.  Anna

[annaS]

Sorry, I take back all that I said in the previous message.  His sister is Elizabeth Jones born in Pwllheli.  She must have married a Jones. Jones + Jones.  The 1901 I found IS him     Sorry for the confusion.  An aberation on my part.  Do you have access to the 1901 census.  If not I can PM a copy to you.

Anna

[annaS]

I have been looking for him on the 1911.  Did he go to Canada before then?  I have found his marriage in Church Streeton to either Mary Jane Gwillam or Elizabeth Emma Hanson.  If he didn't go to Canada until after 1911 I can use the wife's name as well as his to find them on 1911.

Anna

[IanLambert]

Hi Anna

Walter married Elizabeth Emma Hanson (1879-1979) on 4th Dec 1907 in Ch Stretton.

The family emigrated to Canada initially to Kelowna B.C., then Calgary -  I believe in1912. They were more than likely in Cheshire on the Wirral in 1911.

By that time they had 2 sons, Hugh Beaver Jones b Mar Q 1909 (Birkenhead district) & Geoffrey Beaver Jones b Wallasey district 1911. They seemed to adopt the 'Beaver' part of Walter's name into their surnames. (His father's name was simply Walter Jones). Later newspaper articles confirm that Walter was a Liverpool journalist and subsequently an editor on the Calgary Herald.


Ian