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Re: death certificate
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 April 05 03:06 BST (UK) »
I got his date of birth from his daughter (hubby's Mum).

I have looked on the GRO via 1837online and cannot find a plain William Scott (no middle names) born anywhere near Bournemouth at that time. Perhaps the birth was never registered but then how did he manage all through life without a birth cert for things like work and pensions ?

Fizzy

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have you looked  through all  the months either side of the year he was supposed to be born for him too? 1902, and 1904.

Why I am saying this is  because when we were trying to get my hubby's grandfather's birth cert, my father-in-law swore blind his father was born in  1900, but we couldn't find him anywhere on 1837 for that year.
  we found out he was actually a year out on the  year he was born.

 His mum was born in 1900, and he always  strongly maintained that his father was born  in 1900 too  as they were always the same age the same year. Even though we had them  as children/babies in the 1901 census and his father was younger than his mother on the census - Father-in-law  threw so much doubt on our findings because he swore it was 1900 he was born in , and we thought perhaps this isn't him in the census and we have the wrong child /family ( even though the parents were the right names too)

we ended up getting his mum and dad's marriage cert first to see if it could through any light on it - and sure enough he was a "year" younger than his wife , and the person we found in feb 1901 in the births was his father.

 father in law was wrong about his father's birth year of 1900,  he was born in early 1901 as we had maintained. But Father in law was right in his own way too , he would have been showing  the same age as his wife who was born late in year of 1900 for a couple of months of  each year.Until she hit her  next birthday of course.
That's probably why he thought that his father was born in the year he swore blind by -  for example, they would have both been 30 for a few months of the year,  but then later in the same year  she would have been 31 and him 30  until the following  Feb  when he had his next  birthday and they'd be back to being both the same age again for a few months of the year.

Just an idea
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Re: death certificate
« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 April 05 08:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone its ideas that I need.

When I looked up the death entry on 1837online, there was no date of birth - just his name and where he died.

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Re: death certificate
« Reply #11 on: Monday 18 April 05 08:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Fizzy

Are you certain of this?

That would certainly lead me to believe that there was something perhaps more than a little odd going on there.

From 1969 the date of birth (as supplied by the informant) is given in the death indexes.  If the date of birth isn't in the index then that is strange!  Why I wonder  ???

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Re: death certificate
« Reply #12 on: Monday 18 April 05 11:19 BST (UK) »
I rechecked and yes the date of birth was there - I think I must have thought it was a ref number for something -deerrrrrr. The date on there is the date I have but then the same person would have supplied the two.

I suspect that Bournemouth was the right place as that is where he married and where his children were born.

I doubt that 1903 will be on FreeBmd yet. I will have another look taking the suggestion of using William Scott as his christian names.

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Re: death certificate
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 April 05 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Fizzy,
It is worth considering that people used to be fined if they registered a birth more than six weeks after birthdate - to avoid this parents would give a fictitious date inside the six week limit. This would give a date later than the real birthdate which might push the registration into another quarter. Also any Male Scotts registered in Bournemouth at the right time - he might not have been named when registered. Regards Jan
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Re: death certificate
« Reply #14 on: Monday 18 April 05 12:49 BST (UK) »
I must admit I was beginning to wonder if the date was fictitious. Or the date he knew was real but a fictitious date was registered. It doesnt help that the name is so common, not even any middle names to help.

I shall plod on.

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