Census - Searching by House

[danuslave]

George & Mary seem to be in two places at once in 1881   

1881  -  RG11/2905/90/14

Ribbesford

Charles Pardoe  Head  Mar  67  Farmer with 150 acres  Worcester Ombersley
Mary Pardoe  Wife  Mar  67  Worcester Asley

1881  -  RG11/2935/52/5

Lineholt

Charles                    Pardoe  Head  Mar  68  Farmer 450 Acres Land Employing 6 Men & 1 Woman  Ombersley
Mary                            "     Wife  Mar  67  Astley
Marianne Elizabeth  ??  "     Dau  Unm  30  Ombersley
Frances Enalis?             "     Dau  Unm    25  Ombersley
Charles William            "     Son  Unm     22  Ribbesford
Ann Maria                     "    Mother  Unm  76  Ombersley
John Edward Pardoe Bligh      Nephew  Unm  26  *
Charles Jones  Serv  Unm  45  General servant farm  Kidderminster

*  shown as The Hay Brecknocksh
    transcribed on An**ry  as  The Hay, Breconshire, Wales

[danuslave]

1901 -  RG13/2794/45/4

Lineholt House

Charles   Pardoe  Head  Wid  88  Farmer  Employer  Worcester, Ombersley
Marianne    Do     Dau  S  50    Worcester, Ombersley
Jane Pearman  Visitor  S  65  Living on own means  Worcester, Hallow

[danuslave]

A bit more digging - just for fun   

Birth registrations

Marianne Elizabeth Narers or Nayers Pardoe  1851  Apr-May-Jun
Droitwich  Vol 18  Page 259

Frances Inglis Pardoe  1856  Jan-Feb-Mar
Droitwich  Vol 6c  Page 367

Death

Mariane E N Pardoe     1944  age at death 93
Droitwich  Vol 6c  Page  203

If you want to find anymore on the Pardoes just let me know  - I'm getting quite attached to them 

Linda

[Sophie30]

Thanks Linda - how strange that the Pardoe's are listed in both places in 1881. Ribbesford is not far away so I guess they owned two farms? They appear to be succesful/wealthy farmers.

I am intrigued because in 1861 they appear in the census living in Ribbesford - Coneygreen Farm (250 acres). I wonder if they also owned Lineholt House Farm then too. Did you come across anything for Lineholt for the Pardoes in 1861 - I cant find anything. I'm wondering if they perhaps built the farmhouse around this time (I will double check at the weekend but I have never seen any date stone on it).

So the Pardoes pretty much lived at Lineholt house from 1871 (we think) through to 1901 but appeared to have a farm in Ribbesford too - maybe that indicates they had enough money to build the house?

Sometime between 1901 and 1911 - perhaps on the death of Charles Pardoe, Marianne his daughter appears  to have sold to Joseph Williams who was living there in 1911.

[danuslave]

Death 
Charles Pardoe  1903  Apr-May-Jun  Age at Death 90
Droitwich  Vol 6c  Page  171

Just had a thought (which should have occurred to me sooner!)

If your in-laws have the deeds to the property (or access to them) there may be a lot of information there.  Unfortunately, recently it has become legal to destroy all the old records once the land has been registered.

I wonder whose bright idea that was??

Good luck

Linda

[Sophie30]

I shall certainly ask them!

Thanks for the update on the death of Charles Pardoe - certainly proves fresh air and hard work never hurt anyone. As my mum always says, hard work never killed anyone - it just makes you a funny shape! The Pardoes lived to a grand old age!

Thanks for all your kind help

[Sophie30]

Hi again Danuslave
I know it has been ages since this thread was started by me, but you were so helpful, I really hope you will be interested in this update....

Ok so, since my February 2011 and my initial investigations regarding my partners family's farmhouse and enquiries regarding the family that lived there pre 1900, we have since got married (I'm now officially Mrs Baylis) and we have planning permission to convert the old threshing barn on my husbands family's farm. I was therefore trawling the archives and our previous chat, as I am keener than ever to know more about the family that lived there prior to my husbands family and would love love love to find some old pictures of the barn (pre 1900 - or its history).....but, I am  thinking that may mean tracking down some descendents of the Pardoe's.

Whilst searching the internet, I also found the following link which really interested me. http://www.lissfineart.com/4375sub0_3.htm#bio
This is a sketch of the farmhouse front door (there is also another one on the art dealers website) that sundial is still in the garden - the door looks the same. It is by an artist named Winifred Knights whose great aunts were Marianne Pardoe - the daughter of Charles Pardoe and Frances Williams (if you look back through the conversation we assumed the house transferred to a Mr Williams - Frances Pardoe must have married him). I am amazed and astounded and cant wait to show my husband and the family. Who incidentally this year have made so many improvements to the farm house as his eldest brother has now moved in (an annexe has been built on for my husbands parents) and that old front door will soon be replaced!!

So now I want to know more....do you think I would be able to track down a descendant of Marianne and Francis Pardoe - did they have any children. I wonder if they have memories of the farm or stories to tell or photographs to share of the farmhouse and outbuildings (our barn).

I do so hope you can help with any advice?

[dawnsh]

Hi Sophie

I know Linda hasn't been online for a while but I checked and she isn't getting notifications for this topic anymore so won't know that you have posted again.

If you would like a response from her, the best thing to do would be to send her a personal message and include the URL from the top of this screen for the topic which is this

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=511060.0


You can send her a pm from this link

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=86281

the pm button is under 'actions' on the left.

Fingers crossed she comes back soon

Dawn

[Mean_genie]

Looks like you are really on a roll! You don't say when your husband's family moved to the farm, so you may already know most of its 20th century history, but you might still be interested in these two surveys. Unfortunately the records aren't digitised, and they are held in TNA, Kew, but they can be really informative:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/valuation-office-survey-land-value-ownership-1910-1915/

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/national-farm-survey-england-wales-1941-1943/

If you are lucky, there might be some locally-held records too.

For the 19th century the Tithe Apportionments from the 1840s have recently been digitised are are online at The Genealogist. Some of the accompanying maps are online too, with the rest to follow

https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/tithe/

Have fun, and good luck (from the not-at-all-envious occupier of a 20th century terraced house)