Edward Jones _ Architect

[Jo Harding]

Congratulations to Wilcoxon on such a detailed piece of research. 

Gary must cut you in on the Trust Fund that we are looking for. The Trust was created under the Will of Edward Jones.

Gary has sent me a copy of the Will of John Nesbitt Fox and I have had a quick look at it (I will give it a good read when I have more time to spare with it being in secretary hand, one sleepless night maybe) I think the address for Edward Jones is: 20 Providence Row, Finsbury Square, County of London. Edit: it could be City of london.

http://www.londonancestor.com/boyle/str-p.htm

One thing that has struck me is the fact that Edward Jones must have been very well educated. He became an architect, studied and practised in London with John Wallen, plus travelled to Greece and elsewhere. This, at a time when few people could read, or even write their own name. Where would he have been educated? It must have been a very good school indeed.

The possible schools local to Wrexham are Ruthin School, or King's School, Chester. Both of these existed at the time he lived. I think the King's School has an archive. I am not sure about Ruthin. Does anyone have any ideas as to other possible schools and how to trace which one he went to?

I have seen some references to John Jones, Draper. I think there is a Grant of Probate shown for his Will on Ancestry. I will see what I found and where. He is mentioned as being the prosecutor in a case on the site below on 28 March 1821. Someone stole a silk scarf from his shop.

http://www.llgc.org.uk/php_ffeiliau/sf_results.php?co=All&from=1772&off_cat=Any&off_co=Denbigh&to=1830&off=800


I wonder if there are any papers for the solicitor mentioned, Hutchinson? It would be interesting to find out where the properties and lands were.


Jo.

[wilcoxon]

 I found a bit about early schools in Wrexham. I wonder if there was any link between  Edward , Henry and James Jackson. 

James Jackson.. The start of  Grove Park Academy,
A Groves house was built in 1762 by James Buttell, he had bought the site from the trustees of the Old Baptist Chapel , Chester Street.  It was bought by a Mrs Fryer who kept it until her death, then it was owned by Ephraim Parkins.  A private school was started by a James Jackson who was there until c 1828. After J Jackson it was run by a Mathew Gibson

John Nesbitt Fox.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=519303.0

[nzenigma]

Yes, great work Wilcoxon, 
I would add to Jo's observation about Edward's education level; I get the impression that Anne was also well educated. While her will is written by a law clerk it is still detailed and well ordered.
Moreover, Anne's signature indicates a tutored handwriting style.

Anne refers to "holdings and occupations of John Jones, Robert Smith, John Rowland, Edward Evans, Margaret Randles, John Davies, Robert Roberts, Thomas Whetnall, Ellis Jones, Grace Jones, and Richard Jones, unto my daughter Elizabeth Fox wife of John Nesbitt Fox for her natural life."
 
The way the last three names are grouped may indicate that they are related.

An Ellis Jones , affluent farmer, appears on the 1841 - 1871 Census at Plas Llanynys.
 Ellis Jones death recorded 1875 St. Asaph, Denbighshire, 11b page 231.  aged 83.

Regards All
Gary

[wilcoxon]

An Ellis Jones , affluent farmer, appears on the 1841 - 1871 Census at Plas Llanynys.
 This one was born Llanfwrog, which is very close to Ruthin.
 I didn`t see Ellis mentioned  in  John N Fox`s will,  the other brothers were , perhaps he died. 
 

[nzenigma]

[ I didn`t see Ellis mentioned  in  John N Fox`s will,  the other brothers were , perhaps he died. 

Possible but, John Jones is only mentioned to identify 'spinster' Sarah.

JN Fox only bequeaths to Jones' : Sarah, Elizabeth and Edward.
 Other children of John Jones are unmentioned.
 

[wilcoxon]

John Nesbitt Fox.
Will Proved  at London 26 th August 1823 by Elizabeth Fox the relict.

Questions  where  and when did he die.
Did he die at Wrexham ,  or possibly in battle.
The will was witnessed 8 Dec 1821 , it looks like a soliciters firm by the names. Irish perhaps.
 Tho Geo Fynimore(?), J Craven A Arand(?) and R???ood? Weston? clerk to Messrs Fynimore & Clarke
From what I`ve read wills were usually proved locally unless it involved property and money in another country.
This might be why the will was proved at the Courts at Canterbury.

At the time of writing his will he had no children.
Edward  the architect married only a few months before the will was proved.
John Jones  was still alive  when John N Fox died.

Edward JONES of Islington and Sophia EDWARDS married  at Finsbury Park Islington on Mar 17, 1823
John Jones died Nov. 4, 1826

[nzenigma]

"...Last will and Testiment of me John Nesbitt Fox Esquire of Wrexham in the County of Denbigh Esquire paymaster..."

While he had Irish roots, it appears that JNF was resident and gent about the town of Wrexham.

 There are several wills on the image, all are proved at London so fair to say he was there and in contact with Edward.

Proved at London by Elizabeth the Relit 26 Aug 1823
Proved at London by Edward Jones  8 Nov 1824

The time gap probably indicates that STILL UNEXPLAINED  Edward was no longer in London.
In Wrexham ? Honeymoon and grand tour of Greece?

A search of military records ( is that Kew?) should reveal circumstances of JNF's death. ( Hmm, another entry in my to do list )

[wilcoxon]

 It doesn`t really mean  he was in London, a lot depended on the will itself as to where it was proved.  A few people have helped on this.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=520280.new;topicseen#new

[nzenigma]

It doesn`t really mean  he was in London, a lot depended on the will itself as to where it was proved.  A few people have helped on this.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=520280.new;topicseen#new

Good info there esp. the link to National Archives_wills.
 so he could have been killed O/seas.