Edward Jones _ Architect

[wilcoxon]

1861 RG9; Piece: 2113; Folio: 18; Page: 28
Same Henry 54 b Tean Stafforshire  and Sophia 50  b Deptford Kent are living at Strand, Bromsgrove, he is still  with the Inland Revenue    , there is a neice Margaret Bloomfied  29 unm , b Spitalfields London. No children.

1851 HO107; Piece: 1543; Folio: 66; Page: 4
11 Spital Square, Norton Folgates, Tower Hamlets.
John Wallen 66 ARCHITECT & SURVEYOR b Surrey Southwark
Harriet Wallen 42 wife b DEPTFORD
Sophi Eliza(beth) Wallen dau 19 b Greenwich
Emily Wallen 18 dau b ""
Fanny M Wallen 16 dau b ""
John James Wallen 33 son in law Auctioneer and Appraiser b  Norton Folgates
Margaret Blomfield 19 grand daughter by 1st Wife. b Stepney
Maria Edwards unm 51 sister in law b Deptford.
Berry Underwood 24 servant
Sarah Nelson 23 servant.

I bet this is the same Margaret Bloomfield that`s living with Henry Jackson and Sophia in 1861.
Maria and Harriet are Sophia`s sisters , and John and Harriet Wallen are the witnesses at Edward and Sophia`s marriage.

Or perhaps not 
 
 

[wilcoxon]

Sorry to c****d up the good work   but, this only leaves Sophia Elizabeth and Edward George surviving. Edward's will states, inter alia: "...bequeath my said real and personal estates [onto] and among all my children including my son Edward..."

 Well - so far we only have SE and EG, perhaps Sophia Jacksons will may shed some light on any others. 

[nzenigma]

Well - so far we only have SE and EG, perhaps Sophia Jacksons will may shed some light on any others. 

Among others, the wills of Henry & Sophia Jackson are in the pipeline. Takes a few weeks apparently .

I do note that their respective 'effects' were under  £800 and  £200 .
Not much of the fortune there.
The solicitors papers may make interesting reading. Also should be informative re the missing children.

Much of the Wills Act 1837 still functions today
...The trustee is required to meet with the probate court regularly and prove that the trust is being handled responsibly and in strict accordance with provisions of the will which created the trust. (Wiki)

Will of John James Esq. 4 July 1888 Personal Estate  £10,449 6s 5d'
Proved by Thomas Reginald James and Richard Percy James Gentlemen of Wrexham and sons of the executors


regards Gary

[hiraeth]

[HO107; Piece: 1543; Folio: 66; Page: 4
11 Spital Square, Norton Folgates, Tower Hamlets.
John Wallen 66 ARCHITECT & SURVEYOR b Surrey Southwark
 

According to this Wikipedia article Sir Horace Jones was articled to John Wallen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Jones_(architect)

Although Edward Jones was a decade or so younger, perhaps he and John Wallen articled together in London?

[hiraeth]

John Wallen, widower married Harriet Edwards July 3, 1830 by licence at Deptford St. Paul.  There were four witnesses: Edw Jones, Sophia Jones, John Edwards and E Edwards.  The register image is viewable on Ancestry.

I don't have online access to the Times digital archive but it might be worth checking to see if there is an obituary c1865 for John Wallen which might describe his career etc.   

[Jo Harding]

John Wallen strikes me as thr type of person who would have left a Will.

Another article on Wkikpaedia states that Edward L'Anson "entered the office of John Wallen principal quantity surveyor at that time in the City".

There are also references to John Wallen in the piece on British History Online. This is in relation to Spital Square.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=50153

He must have been an architect and surveyor of some standing.

I also assumed that Edward Jones was in London to study architecture. Would he have attended a college, or been articled to someone already in the profession?

Jo.

[hiraeth]

No. 516
William JONES (s/o Edward JONES) died 1832 infant
Henrietta JONES (d/o Edward JONES) died 1832 infant

I did a further study of the Non-Conformist Register transcription (Blackwell Index) and found more information on these two under Burials of the Wrexham - Chester Street Presbytarian

William JONES died 08/01/1832, buried 10/01/1832, infant, parents Edward & Sophia Jones
Harriette JONES died 04/03/1832, buried 07/03/1832, infant, parents Edward & Sophia Jones

Baptisms
Hariette JONES born 17/11/1830 baptized 25/1/1831 dau of Edward Jones and Sophia
William JONES born 22/01/1832 baptized 24/01/1832 son of Edward Jones and Sophia

If the dates of the above William Jones baptism are correct, it appears he was born two weeks after the first William died.

[Jo Harding]

I suspect the William Jones who died in 1832 as an "infant" was born some time prior to 1832. He could have been born in London before they came to Wrexham. We don't know yet when they arrived in Wrexham to live. It was about 1828 from the information we have. The Trade and Commercial Directories would give more exact details. Any chance of someone going to the A.N Palmer centre to look?

John Wallen died 13 February 1865. The Probate details state, "The Will of John Wallen formerly of Spital square in the County of Middlesex Surveyor but late of 14 Bedford Road Stockwell in the County of Surrey deceased who died 13 February 1865 at Bedford Road aforesaid was proved at Principal Registry by the oath of Henry Lee of Balham in the said county of Surrey Esquire the sole executor".

Jo

[Jo Harding]

I wonder if the relationship between Edward Jones and John Wallen was that Edward was trained, or articled, to John Wallen in London.

John Wallen and Harriet Edwards married by Licence at Deptford, St Paul on 3 July 1830. John was a widower, Harriet a spinster and she was shown as of the parish of somewhere I cannot decipher in Middlesex. The witnesses were Edward and Sophia Jones, plus John Edwards and E Edwards.

It may be that John Wallen met Harriett via Edward Jones and Sophia.

Harriett appears to have predeceased John Wallen as he is shown as a widower in Surrey in the 1861 census.

Jo.