Edward Jones _ Architect

[wilcoxon]

BINGO  Well spotted  WR.

1861 RG9; Piece: 1593; Folio: 23; Page: 3
Roseeadghill, Madron, Cornwall.
Thomas Pengelly 74 head retired farmer b Madron
Jane Pengelly 67 wife b Penzance, Corwall ,
John R Pengelly 29 so unm farmer / gardener b Madron
Maria Pengelly 26 dau unm b Madron
Sophia E Pengelly 31 marr  daugher in law, Millers wife  b Wrexham
Arthur Pengelly  grandson 9 MO b Madron
Sarah Sincock 22 servant b Sithney


Hmmm 
1861  RG9; Piece: 1593; Folio: 44; Page: 18
Trenere ? Mill Tenement Madron
Thomas William Pengilly  head 35 miller master b Madron
Jane Marshal 31 sister unm b Madron
Lewellyn Marshal  son 5 y 9 MO b "
Agnes Marshal 4 y 6 MO b "
Margaret Berriman 35 servant

1871 RG10; Piece: 2339; Folio: 75; Page: 23
Trenere ? Madron
Thomas W Pengelly 45 farmer and Miller b Madron
Sophia E Pengelly 41 Wrexham
Llewellyn Pengelly  son 15 b Madron
Agnes Pengelly  dau 14 b "
Arthur Pengelly  son 10 b "
Catharine Pengelly dau 8 b "
Thomas Pengelly  son 4 b "
Sophia Jackson  widow  mother in law 69 Annutiant, b Deptford Kent.
Mary J Lawry 23 servant b madron.


 
 
 
 
 

[Jo Harding]

The marriage of Sophia and Edward Jones is strange as I found the following:

Banns read at Deptford St Paul 2nd, 9th and 16th March 1823. States Edward Jones, bachelor of the parish of St Luke, Finsbury and Sophia Edwards , spinster of this parish.

They were married at St Luke, Old Street, Middx, on 17th March 1823, Sophia shown as being of the parish of St Paul, Deptford.

I think that Hiraeth found the Banns read elsewhere.

Jo

[wilcoxon]

The banns were read at ` Deptford St Paul`. Edwards is `of the parish of St Luke` and Sophia `of this parish`
At the side of the banns entry is a note. It looks like `certified 16th March` it`s different to the others which state `marriage took place`
 The Marriage took place at Islington, Finsbury,  St Luke.

[wilcoxon]

A baptism of Sophia EDWARDS  Oct 28, 1801 at St Paul Deptford d/o William Edwards & Elizabeth Edwards.

Hmmm I wonder.
1841 St Pauls Parish  Deptford. Borough of Greenwich.
Broomfield Place
William Edwards 65 lab N
Elizabeth Edwards 65 N

Now - please somebody take a look at this, I can`t make out their places of birth and occupation , but the address seems to be the same.
1851 HO107; Piece: 1584; Folio: 649; Page: 33
Broomfield Place, Telegraph Court. Deptford, St Pauls.
Willam Edwards 77
Mary Edwards 70

MODIFIED
I`m not sure now this is the right William and Elizabeth. 

[wilcoxon]

Ok folks - back to the Jones , thanks to wonderful Jill Rose,we have these .
 All Jones in Queen St .
I`m not 100% sure if the others  are in the same household,
 but can double check when the museum opens.

CONFIRMED , all in same household.
1841 Queen Street
 JONES Sophia  35  Ind.  not born in County
 Edward 10    born in County
 Sophia   10    born in County 
WORRALL Mary   50   Ind.    not born in County                 
 Thomas ( Jones) 25  Attorney's Clerk  born in County
THOMAS Joseph     30  Surgeon not born in County               
NIGHTINGALE Charles  20   do. ap   not born in County
NEWNES Martha  20   F.S.   not born in County

There`s a selection of Harriets but none seem to belong with the family.
Details are now on Jills site.
http://freespace.virgin.net/jill.farndon25/index.html

[Jo Harding]

Congratulations on the finds in the 1841 census!

I have sussed the marriage of Edward and Sophia. I couldn't decipher the names of the witnesses, sorry. The only thing I wonder is whether they had any children before those baptised in Wrexham. They married in 1823, so I thing it likely there would have been a child, or children, before 1828.

I have had a look in the London Parish Registers but couldn't find any in those.

The baptisms of the sibilngs of Sophia Edwards from the parish records are as follows:

All at St Paul, Deptford.

Jane Ann Edwards, baptised 23/09/1798, daughter of William and Elizabeth Edwards, abode: Church St, Occupation: Taylor.
Maria Edwards, baptised 09/02/1800, born 25/01/1800, daughter of William and Elizabeth Edwards, abode: Church St, Occupation:  Taylor.
Sophia Edwards, baptised 28/10/1801, details as above, address Church St, occupation Taylor. Born 1st looked like January,or February.
George Edwards, baptised 15/09/1805, born 09/06/1805. Parents as above and their address and occupation details are the same.
Harriett Edwards, baptised 01/05/1808, born 02/04/1808, details for the parents are as above.
Elizabeth Edwards, baptised 23/04/1810, details for parents as above.
James Edwards, baptised 09/08/1812, details for parents as above.

I noticed that there were other couples with the name of Edwards baptising children at St Paul, Deptford at that time, plus earlier and later.

The second husband of Sophia, Henry Jackson, died 18/07/1862. The Probate details for him are as follows:

The Will of Henry Jackson, late of Stourbridge in the county of Worcester, Revenue Officer, deceased, who died 18 July 1862 at Stourbridge, was proved at Worcester by the oaths of Sophia Jackson of Staines, Middx, widow the Relict, John Eld of Hill Top in the parish of West Bromwich in the county of Stafford, Draper, and John Blackham of Hill Top, Draper, the executors according to the Tenor of the said Will.

Sophia Jackson died on 26 December 1880 at Madron. The details of her probate are as follows:

The Will of Sophia Jackson, late of Treneere Mills in the parish of Madron in the county of Cornwall, widow, who died 26 December 1880 at Treneere Mills, was proved at Bodmin by Thomas William Pengelly of Madron, Market Gardener and Miller, the sole executor.

Jo.

[wilcoxon]

The wittnesses look a bit like Jn/Wm and Harriet Wallin ?
I`ve attached the names bit, but am not sure about posting the complete entry, copyright etc 
Nice to see the signatures though. 

[nzenigma]

Hi amazing friends,
 I have nothing of value to add , except my thanks and hope you are enjoying the journey too.
 I'm a little embarrassed that you have all done so much work and I so little,  just cant keep pace.

Kind regards Gary. 

[wilcoxon]

We`re all still after the money 
 A bit messy this, but it`s from this  website.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/1857a.html
1891,Treneere Mills,1,
Thomas W. Pengelly,Head,M,65,,Market Gardener,Employer,Madron Cornwall,,
,,,Sophia E. Pengelly,Wife,M,,61,,,Wrexham Denbighshire,,
,,,Katherine Pengelly,Dau,S,,28,Home Assistant,,Madron Cornwall,,
,,,Thomas Pengelly,Son,S,24,,Student (Theology),,Madron Cornwall,,
,,,Elizabeth Pearce,Servnt,S,,24,General Servant,Employed,Penzance Cornwall,,

4,Trannack,1,Llewellyn Pengelly,Head,M,35,,Market Gardener,Employer,Madron Cornwall,,
,,,Annie Pengelly,Wife,M,,26,,,Newlyn West Cornwall,,
,,,Sophia E. Pengelly,Dau,S,,3m,,,Madron Cornwall,,
,,,Mary L. Carter,Sis law,S,,30,,,Newlyn West Cornwall

http://www.cornwall-opc.org/index.htm
Masses of  Pengelly names in here 
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/l_m/madron.php
Madron page,